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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Steve Dave on Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:44 pm

What would it take to land Bjugstad? Sheary, 2nd and Lauzon?
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby pens_CT on Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:09 pm

saints11 wrote:I think JR might be in search of a Right handed Center, since all of our centers are Lefty’s. If so, that eliminates all of The Dallas spare centers who are left handed, except for Jason Spezza. That would elevate the status of Bjugstad and Reinhardt who are righty’s. The arrow would point to Bjugstad who is at 54% in the dot, compared to Reinhart’s 39%. I don’t think the Pens would take a run at Spezza because of his contract, but, he does check a lot of boxes for them...right handed, good face off numbers, veteran locker room presence, skilled 3C. Spezza at 50% for remainder of this year and next, possibly.


They had all left handed centers last year, and that seemed to be okay winning the cup and all. If anything, the desire to play Kessel on the third line, would seem to indicate that a left handed center on that line would be preferred.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby murphydump55 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:37 pm

Paul Martin on waivers. 36, 2 years left at 5 million. Please nobody suggest they claim him.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby FLPensFan on Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:06 pm

Steve Dave wrote:What would it take to land Bjugstad? Sheary, 2nd and Lauzon?

Me personally, I think that is too much. I also don't think Florida would want Sheary. They seem to be more about going back to being heavier to play against, and Sheary doesn't fit that mold. If they would take Sheary, consider Florida is getting the cheaper player, and Sheary's best season tops the output of any of Bjugstad's seasons.

Sheary for Bjugstad straight up, or at best, Pens throw in a late round pick (5-7) or a throw away prospect.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby ejd43 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:10 pm

murphydump55 wrote:Paul Martin on waivers. 36, 2 years left at 5 million. Please nobody suggest they claim him.


Eklund is claiming a reunion with the pens. So since he’s the one who said it, it won’t happen. Thank god. That ship has sailed
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Jim on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:06 pm

ejd43 wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:Paul Martin on waivers. 36, 2 years left at 5 million. Please nobody suggest they claim him.


Eklund is claiming a reunion with the pens. So since he’s the one who said it, it won’t happen. Thank god. That ship has sailed


Did anyone ask him how the Pens are supposed to take on a $5M cap hit via waivers?
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Jim on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:12 pm

Steve Dave wrote:What would it take to land Bjugstad? Sheary, 2nd and Lauzon?


Why would the Pens add in Lauzon? ... to nearly any trade short of a bonified top 6 guy?
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Steve Dave on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:41 pm

FLPensFan wrote:
Steve Dave wrote:What would it take to land Bjugstad? Sheary, 2nd and Lauzon?

Me personally, I think that is too much. I also don't think Florida would want Sheary. They seem to be more about going back to being heavier to play against, and Sheary doesn't fit that mold. If they would take Sheary, consider Florida is getting the cheaper player, and Sheary's best season tops the output of any of Bjugstad's seasons.

Sheary for Bjugstad straight up, or at best, Pens throw in a late round pick (5-7) or a throw away prospect.

Ok, I wasn’t sure. I figured we would have to add a little since everyone thinks Sheary doesn’t produce without Crosby and he wears down in the playoffs along with us needing and acquiring a center, usually valued higher than wingers.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby FLPensFan on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:47 pm

Jim wrote:
ejd43 wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:Paul Martin on waivers. 36, 2 years left at 5 million. Please nobody suggest they claim him.


Eklund is claiming a reunion with the pens. So since he’s the one who said it, it won’t happen. Thank god. That ship has sailed


Did anyone ask him how the Pens are supposed to take on a $5M cap hit via waivers?

There you go with common sense again, Jim.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby lemieuxReturns on Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:18 pm

The reason we won the cup the past two years is because we were not spending high amounts of money on defensemen (minus Letang). This past offseason JR has changed the plan and we are at 26.5 million for our d-core. That is up 5 million from last season and up 10 million from 2 seasons ago.

Let's hope JR is realizing the mistake in over-spending on defense (Dumo 4+ and Hunwick 2.5) and does not even think about Paul F'ing Martin.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby pens_CT on Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:55 pm

lemieuxReturns wrote:The reason we won the cup the past two years is because we were not spending high amounts of money on defensemen (minus Letang). This past offseason JR has changed the plan and we are at 26.5 million for our d-core. That is up 5 million from last season and up 10 million from 2 seasons ago.

Let's hope JR is realizing the mistake in over-spending on defense (Dumo 4+ and Hunwick 2.5) and does not even think about Paul F'ing Martin.


What was Rutherford's option? Did he have ready NHL prospects at WBS who would be making entry level type of money, so he didn't have to sign Hunwick or give Dumoulin a raise? We all know the answer to that question.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Puck-Lurker on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:06 pm

pens_CT wrote:
lemieuxReturns wrote:The reason we won the cup the past two years is because we were not spending high amounts of money on defensemen (minus Letang). This past offseason JR has changed the plan and we are at 26.5 million for our d-core. That is up 5 million from last season and up 10 million from 2 seasons ago.

Let's hope JR is realizing the mistake in over-spending on defense (Dumo 4+ and Hunwick 2.5) and does not even think about Paul F'ing Martin.


What was Rutherford's option? Did he have ready NHL prospects at WBS who would be making entry level type of money, so he didn't have to sign Hunwick or give Dumoulin a raise? We all know the answer to that question.

Hate to say it, but given Dumo's term, we're not overpaying. The only raise in D salary that made me frown was Schultz, but look at what happens if he's not around for a while. We need him. A lot.

Hunwick and Cole are interchangeable on the salary scale. Think we all know if one of the two gets traded, it's Cole who will get moved. February 26 should be marked on Cole's calendar.

There weren't many options to seriously underpay defencemen to get a D corps together. Yet GMJR picks up Oleksiak on the cheap.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby ville5 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:38 pm

Jim wrote:
ejd43 wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:Paul Martin on waivers. 36, 2 years left at 5 million. Please nobody suggest they claim him.


Eklund is claiming a reunion with the pens. So since he’s the one who said it, it won’t happen. Thank god. That ship has sailed


Did anyone ask him how the Pens are supposed to take on a $5M cap hit via waivers?

Martin with 850k retained for Hagelin duh. Sheesh.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby ville5 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:41 pm

Engelland reups for another year at 1.5 and Tavares says he wants to stay om the Island. Unfortunately it won't put an end to Leafs or Habs fans thinking they're going to get him. :(
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby ejd43 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:00 pm

Jim wrote:
ejd43 wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:Paul Martin on waivers. 36, 2 years left at 5 million. Please nobody suggest they claim him.


Eklund is claiming a reunion with the pens. So since he’s the one who said it, it won’t happen. Thank god. That ship has sailed


Did anyone ask him how the Pens are supposed to take on a $5M cap hit via waivers?


Said something along the lines of once he clears trade him with salary retention.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby ville5 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:29 pm

Dreger is saying Botterill wants a first, a conditional pick, a roster player AND a prospect for Kane. Good luck with that.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Jim on Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:35 pm

ville5 wrote:Dreger is saying Botterill wants a first, a conditional pick, a roster player AND a prospect for Kane. Good luck with that.


Sakic ended up with a lot of "potential" pieces for Duchene. It is natural that the selling team wants as much as possible.... at the start. We will see what happens as it gets closer to 2/26.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby FLPensFan on Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:51 pm

Jim wrote:
ville5 wrote:Dreger is saying Botterill wants a first, a conditional pick, a roster player AND a prospect for Kane. Good luck with that.


Sakic ended up with a lot of "potential" pieces for Duchene. It is natural that the selling team wants as much as possible.... at the start. We will see what happens as it gets closer to 2/26.

Duchene also had another year of term on his contract. Off-ice issues aside, right now, Kane is probably the best winger available at the deadline.

A 1st, a pick OR roster player, and a conditional pick (2nd - 4th) is probably fair. 4 pieces.....not bloody likely...unless Botteril trades with Edmonton.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Jim on Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:04 pm

FLPensFan wrote:
Jim wrote:
ville5 wrote:Dreger is saying Botterill wants a first, a conditional pick, a roster player AND a prospect for Kane. Good luck with that.


Sakic ended up with a lot of "potential" pieces for Duchene. It is natural that the selling team wants as much as possible.... at the start. We will see what happens as it gets closer to 2/26.

Duchene also had another year of term on his contract. Off-ice issues aside, right now, Kane is probably the best winger available at the deadline.

A 1st, a pick OR roster player, and a conditional pick (2nd - 4th) is probably fair. 4 pieces.....not bloody likely...unless Botteril trades with Edmonton.


I could see Philly, or the Caps, doing it.

Maybe Nashville since they got a taste last year and improved themselves with Turris already. A real "go for it" push.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Pruezy11881 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:06 pm

ejd43 wrote:
Jim wrote:
ejd43 wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:Paul Martin on waivers. 36, 2 years left at 5 million. Please nobody suggest they claim him.


Eklund is claiming a reunion with the pens. So since he’s the one who said it, it won’t happen. Thank god. That ship has sailed


Did anyone ask him how the Pens are supposed to take on a $5M cap hit via waivers?


Said something along the lines of once he clears trade him with salary retention.

Word on the street was Boston was expected to put in a claim on him.

*Edit: Just read from Bobby Mac that Martin cleared waivers.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby wondermoose on Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:27 pm

If Florida didn't want Marchessault, they won't want anything to do with any our smaller forwards.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby longtimefan on Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:13 pm

https://news.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/br ... ref=Brutus

Here you go An actual rumor from Bob McKenzie. Letestu for Cole, although Pens are exploring several options. They've backed away from Kane because of his price, and are concentrating on center depth.JR is expected to make a move sooner rather then later.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Antonio on Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:53 pm

God I hope not.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby NJ5934 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:53 pm

Maybe I'm a little tainted from Letestu's first stint with the Pens but I don't see him as much, if any, upgrade over Sheahan. If that's all we can grab for Cole so be it but I'm not so sure a move like that makes us a better team.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Owchar76 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:03 pm

longtimefan wrote:https://news.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/breaking-trade-between-the-penguins-and-oilers-may-happen-very-soon?ref=jo&ref=Brutus

Here you go An actual rumor from Bob McKenzie. Letestu for Cole, although Pens are exploring several options. They've backed away from Kane because of his price, and are concentrating on center depth.JR is expected to make a move sooner rather then later.


Definitely not my first choice, however:

Yes he's been a power play specialist as of late: 11 of 16 goals on the PP last year, but only 3 of 19 assists on the PP. This year he has 3 of his 8 goals on the PP and 3 of his 8 assists. He's not going to get that kind of power play time if he ends up in Pittsburgh, but upon digging a bit deeper he's shown to be able to score at even strength just fine in season's past. Would he play on the 3rd line? With Kessel? Perhaps. That could help spark that 5 on 5 play again.

Looking at his possession numbers, he has a 55% CF when the game is tied and 51% when the game is within 1 goal. He's done this while starting the majority of his shifts in the defensive zone. In 2 of the last 3 years he's started 35 and 37% of his shifts in the offensive zone. He's also 52.1% on faceoffs over his career.

Not my first choice for Cole but maybe he'd be okay? Heck, after seeing how Sheahan and Oleksiak are fitting in, I should probably just trust Rutherford.
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