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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby RentedMule66 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:21 pm

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blurryhaze312 wrote:
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longtimefan wrote:GMJR back in July: "We'll get our third line center. We've got time." Something to that effect....... :)


I don't think he thought Brassard might be available in his wildest dreams. Who would have thought the Sens could fall this far? And to go out and get Duchene, who I simply can't see re-signing with Ottawa, and still fail?


And the funny thing is...for what I think this team needs, it's for the absolute best that we lost out on Duchene and got Brassard. We need playoff warriors/team guys, not a guy like Duchene. I'm thrilled at how this saga played out.


I'm not counting on this trade yet. Something is fishy that its still not official. I get that it's "complicated" and may involve another team, but a little concerning that it's taking this long to become official.


I may be a pessimist, but I don't think this deal gets done now. Someone's gonna back out. Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby lemieuxReturns on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:25 pm

Cole is like.... "Hey guys, so am I dressing tonight or not?"
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby DelPen on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:26 pm

Vegas trades a 5th to Ottawa for Brassard with cap retained. We trade a 1st and Gustavsson for that 5th rounder. We then trade the same 5th rounder and Cole for Brassard with salary retained. Should all fine under the rules.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby blurryhaze312 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:26 pm

RentedMule66 wrote:
RentedMule66 wrote:
blurryhaze312 wrote:
wondermoose wrote:
longtimefan wrote:GMJR back in July: "We'll get our third line center. We've got time." Something to that effect....... :)


I don't think he thought Brassard might be available in his wildest dreams. Who would have thought the Sens could fall this far? And to go out and get Duchene, who I simply can't see re-signing with Ottawa, and still fail?


And the funny thing is...for what I think this team needs, it's for the absolute best that we lost out on Duchene and got Brassard. We need playoff warriors/team guys, not a guy like Duchene. I'm thrilled at how this saga played out.


I'm not counting on this trade yet. Something is fishy that its still not official. I get that it's "complicated" and may involve another team, but a little concerning that it's taking this long to become official.


I may be a pessimist, but I don't think this deal gets done now. Someone's gonna back out. Hope I'm wrong.


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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby RentedMule66 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:28 pm

Hope so Blurry
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby joker10277 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:28 pm

All good let’s keep Ian Cole and try for a lower target....
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Durbano on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:34 pm

The Letestu dream lives!!!
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby lemieuxReturns on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:34 pm

JR : "Hey Melnyk, any chance you can retain some cap hit on Brassard for us with all of these assets we are sending your way?"

Melnyk : "Hell no. Dorion, where is the Spartan?"

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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Maestro on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:35 pm

DelPen wrote:Vegas trades a 5th to Ottawa for Brassard with cap retained. We trade a 1st and Gustavsson for that 5th rounder. We then trade the same 5th rounder and Cole for Brassard with salary retained. Should all fine under the rules.



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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby brwi on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:41 pm

Pens throwing in Steigerwald to Ottawa and retaining his salary.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby BurghThing on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:47 pm

brwi wrote:Pens throwing in Steigerwald to Ottawa and retaining his salary.


Where do I sign?!
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Puck-Lurker on Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:57 pm

I think we're all ignoring the key piece that will make this work.

Top Sixtito!

That is all.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby jwest21 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:13 pm

This guy says Reaves may be part of this'
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Puck-Lurker on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:16 pm

jwest21 wrote:This guy says Reaves may be part of this'
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https://twitter.com/MurphysLaw74/status ... 4354191360

Whether this is true or not, he IS a healthy scratch for tonight's game. Coinciding with Hörnqvist's return to the lineup.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby blurryhaze312 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:17 pm

Might have had to do it to make the $$$ work.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby longtimefan on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:25 pm

https://www.dkpittsburghsports.com/2018 ... -senators/


There’s a catch, but it seems temporary: The trade might have to be funneled through a third team, per TSN’s Bob McKenzie, because of the complications involving money. That third team, he reported, likely will be the Golden Knights. The NHL rejected the initial trade, per Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos, and wants to see it restructured to assure that there’s no circumventing of the salary cap.

No one is expecting the trade to be called off.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby DelPen on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:25 pm

It’s going to be awkward when we play Vegas in the finals.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Defence21 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:34 pm

Lots of scouts at the WBS game, including Carolina, Chicago, Edmonton, and Florida according to a retweet by Seth Rorabaugh.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Faubert5 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:45 pm

What is Murphy's track record? The little I saw on a brief search yielded no rumors that turned into real action. Again, I don't know the guy and didn't do an exhaustive search so anyone that knows the guy - is he good?
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby pens#1 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:49 pm

Is Staal being traded or actual injury?
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Faubert5 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:05 pm

pens#1 wrote:Is Staal being traded or actual injury?


Personal reasons according to NHL network and Pen's pregame.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby longtimefan on Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:08 pm

https://www.pensburgh.com/2018/2/23/170 ... to-resolve

The issue according to the league: Vegas can’t technically retain any of Brassard’s salary due to the fact that Brassard has never been a member of the Vegas organization. Makes sense on the surface, right?

What is a “reserve list” anyways? CapFriendly provides this definition:

An NHL team’s reserve list is comprised of any player who’s signing rights they hold. This includes unsigned draft choices, all players signed to a Standard Player Contract (SPC), and all players signed to an SPC while playing in a junior league.

Each club can have a maximum of 90 players on their reserve list.

We’ll see how the hurdle is overcome, but seemingly Brassard may have to be traded to Vegas for a day to make it onto their reserve list, then in theory it would be allowable for VGK to retain salary and send Brassard to his final destination of Pittsburgh.

With many industry observers believing this will be salvaged and the deal will go through as initially reported, there’s not much reason to panic for Pens fans. It will take a little more work by the parties to go through the dog and pony show that the NHL wants to see, but at the end of the day when it comes to complicated and tricky trades the saying “where there is a will, there is a way”. The teams seem to all be in agreement about the trade, now they simply just have to jump a few more hurdles to get all the books in line.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Jim on Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:16 pm

Didn't Tampa retain salary on Streit last year?
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby longtimefan on Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:19 pm

Jim wrote:Didn't Tampa retain salary on Streit last year?



Yes. That's a good point. I'm not sure how this differs. He was traded the same day I believe.
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Re: 2018 Trade Rumors Section

Postby Great58 on Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:30 pm

longtimefan wrote:
Jim wrote:Didn't Tampa retain salary on Streit last year?



Yes. That's a good point. I'm not sure how this differs. He was traded the same day I believe.

Immediately, IIRC.
I didn’t recall that Tampa retained salary, though.
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