Poll: Should Sid be on the shootout?

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Should Sid be on the shootout?

Poll ended at Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:09 am

Keep Sid
51
65%
Remove Sid & use Staal or Ruutu
23
29%
Remove Sid & use someone else
4
5%
 
Total votes : 78

Poll: Should Sid be on the shootout?

Postby dboss on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:09 am

I think this is a real catch 22 for MT. Any thoughts?
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Re: Poll: Should Sid be on the shootout?

Postby pensfan20 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:12 am

dboss wrote:I think this is a real catch 22 for MT. Any thoughts?

It is a catch 22. If you use him and he doesnt score, are you hurting crosby or are you showing confidence in him? Or does it help the other teams goalie? if you stop sid does that boost your confidence for the next shooters?(not that that happened the last 2 shootouts) But then ask yourself what does this do to Stall and the other guys that think they could score and they keep being snubbed only to watch crosby miss time and time again.
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Postby pfim on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:17 am

He's the best player in the game, he needs to get better at them, not stop doing them.
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Postby Mad City Mike on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:20 am

pfim wrote:He's the best player in the game, he needs to get better at them, not stop doing them.


The goal is to win the game. use the guys who are best at this. Ruutu showed last year and on his penalty shot that he's better than Sid. Use him. Won't happen, but it should.
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Postby pfim on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:28 am

Mad City Mike wrote:
pfim wrote:He's the best player in the game, he needs to get better at them, not stop doing them.


The goal is to win the game. use the guys who are best at this. Ruutu showed last year and on his penalty shot that he's better than Sid. Use him. Won't happen, but it should.


I just don't buy it, there's more to be gained with Crosby improving than giving a few shots to Ruutu this season.
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Postby dogwithshftyeyes on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:33 am

dont use him in the top 3, but if it goes beyond that, he should be 4 or 5
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Postby pfim on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:36 am

2/13.....it dosen't look like its getting any better


So, he's incapable of improving?

If my team is one point from a playoff spot and down to the last shooter, I'd pick the leader of the team and the best player in the game every single time.
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Postby heshootsandscores on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:44 am

pfim wrote:
2/13.....it dosen't look like its getting any better


So, he's incapable of improving?

If my team is one point from a playoff spot and down to the last shooter, I'd pick the leader of the team and the best player in the game every single time.


KEEP HIM...if there is anyone devoted to improving his skills, it's him. He worked all summer on faceoffs, and has improved. He is a truely devoted player, like none i have ever seen. He plays 100% every game.
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Postby Jimmy66 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:56 am

pfim wrote:
Mad City Mike wrote:
pfim wrote:He's the best player in the game, he needs to get better at them, not stop doing them.


The goal is to win the game. use the guys who are best at this. Ruutu showed last year and on his penalty shot that he's better than Sid. Use him. Won't happen, but it should.


I just don't buy it, there's more to be gained with Crosby improving than giving a few shots to Ruutu this season.


That's what practices are for, improvement in these areas. If Ruutu is better than it is not just giving him a few extra shots, it is giving us a better chance to win, use him in the top three. Let crosby go 4 or 5. Crosby would certainly understand if it was for the betterment of the team.
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Postby elij21 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:02 pm

Crosby is there best players, he wants to go out there so he has the right to do soo and have the pressure. He made goods moves on almost all of his attempts. He's going to get the monkey of his back, he just needs to simply his chances like in the all-star game.
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Postby MWB on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:03 pm

There is a large factor of luck in this. Sid seems to have had some bad luck the last two shootouts (great save vs. Dallas, puck took a bad bounce last night). Things will even out and he'll be fine. No way you take him out of it.
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Postby spi on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:15 pm

It is amazing to think that the kid still has some learning to do but hey, he hasnt completed his second season. Best way to get better is to take them. He needs to get his confidence back and he will be ok. To get it back, he needs to shoot.

The lessons he is learning now could pay dividends down the road. I say keep him there b/c he will figure it out very soon
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Postby newarenanow on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:24 pm

dogwithshftyeyes wrote:dont use him in the top 3, but if it goes beyond that, he should be 4 or 5



I agree, at least for now.

I voted to use Staahl or Ruutu. They've both done pretty good on break away/penalty shots.

Sid is 0 for this season and only 2/13 overall. A guy of his caliber is not going to lose confidence in anything. In fact, I think it will drive him to be better.

I do think if it goes to a 4th or 5th shooter, use him.

But right now, he is not getting the job done.
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Postby jimjom on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:29 pm

I'd say keep him in there - he is our best player. Keep E.C. too, but rotate a third guy in - Ruutu, Staal, Malkin.
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Postby SDPensFan on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:35 pm

You gotta keep Sid in there, He's our best player.
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Postby pensfan20 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:37 pm

SDPensFan wrote:You gotta keep Sid in there, He's our best player.

so with that theory should we be putting Fleury in the SO order? Common people, yes he is our BEST player but not in the SO. We need to win games and to win games you put your aces in their places! So you pick your best 3 SO players and put them in there. Crosby would say the same thing. he is such a team player that he would be the first to say to sit him if he isnt performing to his ability.
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Postby pfim on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:39 pm

so with that theory should we be putting Fleury in the SO order?


Yeah, I can see how those situations are alike. :roll:
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Postby pensfan20 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:48 pm

pfim wrote:
so with that theory should we be putting Fleury in the SO order?


Yeah, I can see how those situations are alike. :roll:

sarcasm its a beutiful thing...
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Postby Senka on Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:54 pm

i was one of the first people to start a thread like this early in the season after a frustrating crosby. Truth is it doesnt matter what we all think -- he'll be in there every single night. MT has alreadystated he will not sit his best player no matter the circumstances. On top of that, i no longer mind him out there. If i was to replace him I'd use Gonchar, Staal, Whitney, & Ruutu in that order. But im content. EC uses his same move everytime and scores... and MAC has been doing much much better. No complaints my way. This team is on a tear. not to mention -- Crosby hasnt been a factor, but he doesnt need to be. Therefore its simply practice for him.
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Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:17 pm

Christensen
Staal

Malkin or Crosby, if one of them scored in the previous shootout, then they go again, if not, the other one goes.
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Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:18 pm

and obviously if staal doesn't work out it has to be reworked, and if christensen dies on shootouts then he could be removed.
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