at what point did the Pens lose their season?

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at what point did the Pens lose their season?

Postby conforto45 on Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:15 pm

my vote goes to whenever they continued to play T-Bo.

they lost a bunch of games that they couldve very well won if they had anyone but T-Bo in net..

hell, the garbage dumpster out back wouldve been a better choice
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Re: at what point did the Pens lose their season?

Postby Draftnik on Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:18 pm

Before it started. The decision to have a defense comprised of Gonchar, Tarnstrom, Jackman, Melichar, Orpik, Scuderi, Odelein, Poapst... am I forgetting somebody from the opening night roster. There was no way a team would win with that defense regardless of the goalie.
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Postby the wicked child on Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:25 pm

The Pens lost this season when they went into the season with Fleury in WBS. Tblow was one of the biggest jokes I've ever seen in the net, and Caron has continued to be Caron... better goaltending might have bought them an extra game or 2 early on and not allowed them to fall so far.

Also, sending Christensen and Whitney down proved to be a bad idea. Both have tailed off considerably, but both are still leaps and bounds above a lot of the trash that was on the team ahead of them.

You could also look a t a few of Cp's off ice decisions... such as deciding that Pirjeta could be Robert Lang II when he had like 11 good games while playing with morozov who was left in Russia. Because of this, they didn't go after another C. Say what you will about Perreault, he wins face offs, and that alone would have been a major upgrade.

Also, the D was greatly mishandled. Sure, CP overpaid for Gonchar, especially with what we have seen so far, but after they signed him, they should have NEVER have picked up Tarnstrom's contract. In addition, the signings of poapst and odelein were lame. Granted, nobody KNEW how things would be for sure, but they had to see that this Defense was lame.
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Postby ville5 on Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:29 pm

[quote="the wicked child"]
You could also look a t a few of Cp's off ice decisions... such as deciding that Pirjeta could be Robert Lang II when he had like 11 good games while playing with morozov who was left in Russia. Because of this, they didn't go after another C. Say what you will about Perreault, he wins face offs, and that alone would have been a major upgrade.
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Aren't we forgetting a small fact? The fact that CP made offers to both Modano and Forsberg?
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:29 pm

When Mario decided to pay himself 4-6 million for what? 16 games? That money would have been better off acquiring a real goalie.

When Edzo was brought back to coach. How far does loyalty go? FoM.
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Postby MKRA on Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:43 pm

Most of what you have all mentioned above, plus a couple other things:

1. When they decided they would rely on guys like Recchi, LeClair, Lemiuex, T-BO, and possible others who simply hadn't played the game in a year and a half. Recchi and LeClair are just now really rounding into shape.

2. When training camp was completely fumbled away. Despite important guys missing more than a year of playing time, they invite some 65 players to camp (the Flyers, by comparison, invited maybe 36). There were realistically two spots open. Guys needed conditioning. Did the entire team play one pre-season game together? The Penguins have in years past opened up camp to many. But this was not the year. Players did not get conditioning and the team didn't play together. The result was the opening 9 game winless streak: Lost of lazy, tired penalties and absolutely no team cohesion.

Those are my two cents.
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Postby Reilly on Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:50 pm

The season went downhill when Fleury stood on his head and the Pens won in Philly in OT and was sent down to WBS the very next day.
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Refusing to change when in midst of 1st losing streak

Postby penny lane on Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:14 am

Maybe it was even the 1st game, they had beaucoup chances on
Marty Brodeur... power play after power play.

Refusual of Craig Patrick to hire a defensive coach or 2nd in command
behind Edzo.
Blind bad luck in choosing the wrong veteran players...detroit has the
good old players. :P
Having no clue in how to help Sergei Gonchar fix whatever has ailed
him all year.

Mario in not making sure his team blended / mixed; young and older
players should know daily what is expected and what is not tolerated.

That stupid florida game, sid gets 7 power plays and still pens lose.

but sure I can vote for the great win in flyerland and Flower Fleury gone.

It's hard to see JOY in Sidney's game; he takes all this losing very hard
and it is bringing him down. LIke to see him bust loose...go for broke...
another penguin hatrick.
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