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Question for the day

Postby randy on Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:18 pm

Revolves around the university of minnesota hockey program.

is it a bit overrated?

I invite you to take some slapshots at my thought, but has that program REALLY produced any HIGH LEVEL NHL calibre players since Neil Broten?
(again, high level being the key words)

Plenty of solid, solid players for sure, and I know a couple big forwards are in Jersey's system right now, but someone.....anyone worthy of a NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK?

I dont think so. (Leopold? Would you use a number one overall on him now?) Again, if you can think of one, post it cause right now I cant and i need your help. Dont use Tomas Vanek yet, maybe hes one, but i dont hear any calder talk or rave reviews (is he still a rookie?) revolving around him either.

There has been some knock that that larger ice surface the gophers play and practice on doesnt really help their guys come time to play in the bigs.

Kessel is already there, and Johnson is signed to play there, correct?

So if Johnson is another Derian Hatcher, does it really help, or is it sort of redundant? Most likely he's years away. Team needs help now. Will fans continue to come out if the last place finishes continue?

its absolutely imperative that this pick isnt wasted, especially with a bit of uncertainty surrounding Malkin, and maybe even Fleury.

With visions of Brian Lawton, I hope the penguins keep an open mind to potential deals involving that pick.
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Postby Kovy27 on Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:21 pm

Yeah, they should trade the number 1 pick overall for Paul Mara :roll:
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Re: Question for the day

Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:23 pm

randy wrote: (Leopold? Would you use a number one overall on him now?)


Not a valid argument. If you list all of the #1 overall picks from the past 20 years, only a handful would still be the #1 pick from that draft in hindsight.
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Postby Mad City Mike on Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:27 pm

Thomas Vanek looks to be a good one.
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:44 pm

Year
1969 Rejean Houle, Mon., LW
1970 Gilbert Perreault, Buf., C
1971 Guy Lafleur, Mon., RW
1972 Billy Harris, NYI, RW
1973 Denis Potvin, NYI, D
1974 Greg Joly, Wash., D
1975 Mel Bridgman, Phi., C
1976 Rick Green, Wash., D
1977 Dale McCourt, Det., C
1978 Bobby Smith, Min., C
1979 Rob Ramage, Colo., D
1980 Doug Wickenheiser, Mon., C
1981 Dale Hawerchuk, Win., C
1982 Gord Kluzak, Bos., D
1983 Brian Lawton, Min., C
1984 Mario Lemieux, Pit., C
1985 Wendel Clark, Tor., LW/D
1986 Joe Murphy, Det., C
1987 Pierre Turgeon, Buf., C
1988 Mike Modano, Min., C
1989 Mats Sundin, Que., RW
1990 Owen Nolan, Que., RW
1991 Eric Lindros, Que., C
1992 Roman Hamrlik, TB, D
1993 Alexandre Daigle, Ott., C
1994 Ed Jovanovski, Fla., D
1995 Bryan Berard, Ott., D
1996 Chris Phillips, Ott., D
1997 Joe Thornton, Bos., C
1998 Vincent Lecavalier, TB, C
1999 Patrik Stefan, Atl., C
2000 Rick DiPietro, NYI, G
2001 Ilya Kovalchuk, Atl., RW
2002 Rick Nash, Clb., LW
2003 Marc-Andre Fleury, Pit., G
2004 Alexander Ovechkin, Wash., LW
2005 Sidney Crosby, Pit., C

Only Berard, Lemieux, Hawerchuck, Bobby Smith, Potvin, and Perreault won their respective Calder Cups.

You could make a case for Lecavalier, Thornton, Sundin, Modano, and obviously Lafleur as having a shot at winning a 'mulligan' for contributions over their entire career.

That's 11 out of 36 years. Less than 30%. And that's giving the benefit of the doubt to anyone even close to being counted.

Not very good odds.
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Postby randy on Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:54 pm

"Yeah, they should trade the number 1 pick overall for Paul Mara"


Yeah, and mike ricci never played for philly.


Where's worrel?
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