Ekman, Petro, Kiwi, Cairns expected to be let go

Forum for Pittsburgh Penguins-related messages.

Moderators: Three Stars, dagny, pfim, netwolf

Ekman, Petro, Kiwi, Cairns expected to be let go

Postby schreibdog on Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:20 am

The Penguins apparently will not offer contracts to forwards Nils Ekman and Ronald Petrovicky and defensemen Eric Cairns and Joel Kwiatkowski, all of whom will go on the open market July 1.

They seem to have varying degrees of interest in retaining goalie Jocelyn Thibault and defensemen Rob Scuderi, Alain Nasreddine and Josef Melichar, although it is entirely possible none will be back.
--
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/07172/795908-61.stm

I'm bummed about Petro. I liked him on our 4th line much more than BGL.
schreibdog
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 3,919
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:16 am
Location: South Park, PA

Re: Ekman, Petro, Kiwi, Cairns expected to be let go

Postby mikey287 on Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:34 am

schreibdog wrote:I'm bummed about Petro. I liked him on our 4th line much more than BGL.


Agreed.

I'd also like to give Kiwi a chance, if he's willing to be a 7th, he's one of the better 7th d-men in the league if that makes any sense...I guess Scuds will be 7, which will be a sign of some improvement I hope...
mikey287
NHL Fourth Liner
NHL Fourth Liner
 
Posts: 18,587
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:40 pm
Location: Philadelphia, PA - @MichaelFarkasHF

Re: Ekman, Petro, Kiwi, Cairns expected to be let go

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:19 am

mikey287 wrote:
schreibdog wrote:I'm bummed about Petro. I liked him on our 4th line much more than BGL.


Agreed.

I'd also like to give Kiwi a chance, if he's willing to be a 7th, he's one of the better 7th d-men in the league if that makes any sense...I guess Scuds will be 7, which will be a sign of some improvement I hope...


Laraque is fine on the 4th, no one complained about him until the playoffs, and really it was obvious there wouldn't be a place for him then even before we got to the playoffs. I like Petro too, but I won't complain seeing Laraque.

Cairns was a no brainer though, and Ekman isn't that much of a surprise, though I expect him to go have success somewhere else.
Idoit40fans
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 53,620
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:42 pm
Location: I'm sorry you feel that way

Re: Ekman, Petro, Kiwi, Cairns expected to be let go

Postby Samuelsson on Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:42 am

Idoit40fans wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
schreibdog wrote:
Cairns was a no brainer though, and Ekman isn't that much of a surprise, though I expect him to go have success somewhere else.


I'm not so sure about Ekman having success somewhere else. The only place he really has had good numbers in the NHL is San José. And after last year's performance, even though he was injured a lot, it's easy to see that Big Joe probably had a lot to do with it.
Samuelsson
Junior 'A'
Junior 'A'
 
Posts: 168
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:16 am
Location: Karlstad,Sweden

Re: Ekman, Petro, Kiwi, Cairns expected to be let go

Postby stefanh on Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:00 am

Samuelsson wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
schreibdog wrote:
Cairns was a no brainer though, and Ekman isn't that much of a surprise, though I expect him to go have success somewhere else.


I'm not so sure about Ekman having success somewhere else. The only place he really has had good numbers in the NHL is San José. And after last year's performance, even though he was injured a lot, it's easy to see that Big Joe probably had a lot to do with it.


Not if you consider that Ekman did as well in San José without Thornton as with.
stefanh
Junior 'A'
Junior 'A'
 
Posts: 361
Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:41 pm
Location: Gothenburg Sweden

Re: Ekman, Petro, Kiwi, Cairns expected to be let go

Postby Jim on Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:22 am

schreibdog wrote:The Penguins apparently will not offer contracts to forwards Nils Ekman and Ronald Petrovicky and defensemen Eric Cairns and Joel Kwiatkowski, all of whom will go on the open market July 1.

They seem to have varying degrees of interest in retaining goalie Jocelyn Thibault and defensemen Rob Scuderi, Alain Nasreddine and Josef Melichar, although it is entirely possible none will be back.


Ekman bombed big time. He was decent in SJ even without Thornton, but just never got it going here.

Petrovicky is a loss, but we have a couple guys of that mold. While they are nice to have, you don't want to have too many good grinding relative non-scorers on the roster. You just don't need, or want, two full lines of those.

Cairns is expendable because of Laraque.

Kwiatkowski would be a good reserve guy, but #7's are not that hard to come by.

Thibault is only necessary if they think MAF still needs him. Otherwise he will be too expensive as a rarely used backup.

Scuderi/Melichar are what they are. I am fine with them being the #7, MAYBE a #6 if necessary.

Nasreddine see Kwiatkowski. Frankly, all of Kwiatkowski, Melichar, Nasreddine and Scuderi are the exact same thing.
Jim
NHL Healthy Scratch
NHL Healthy Scratch
 
Posts: 11,951
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:18 pm
Location: Pittsburgh

Postby bh on Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:30 am

Sounds like Filewich and Kennedy will get a real shot at making the club this year. It also sounds like Shero isn't going to pull any blockbusters. He also states that he isn't looking to spend 4-5 million on a top pairing defesnman so I guess that probably rules out Hannan as well as a few others. Sounds like he's talking like Letang is on the team already.
bh
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 4,513
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:48 am

Postby pfim on Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:47 am

I guess the only somewhat suprising one is Petrovicky, although I don't think it's much of a loss.
pfim
NHL Fourth Liner
NHL Fourth Liner
 
Posts: 16,789
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:35 am
Location: Sitting in front of my computer

I'll miss Petro

Postby Penspal on Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:06 am

And I hate to think of him turboing and and hammering our dmen on another team.

I really don't unserstand this move to be honest. I'm going to guess that Laraque is the guy replacing him, but I sure hope he speeds up considerably.

Good Luck Petro wherever you land, and take it easy on our Pens.
Penspal
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 4,576
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:12 am
Location: dark recesses of Sid's brain

Postby NJ5934 on Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:10 am

I'm going to guess the veteran targeted to play alongside Letang is Andy Sutton.
NJ5934
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 3,848
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:33 pm
Location: Toms River, NJ

Postby Rocco on Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:14 am

Shero will rue the day he let The Answer walk.
Rocco
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 36,335
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:34 am
Location: Manor Farm

Postby evilpens on Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:14 am

NJ5934 wrote:I'm going to guess the veteran targeted to play alongside Letang is Andy Sutton.

I sure as hell hope not :evil:
evilpens
 

Postby eastonpensfan on Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:24 am

bh wrote:Sounds like he's talking like Letang is on the team already.


I noticed the same thing and that surprised me. Especially since the Q is such an offensive-minded league and defensive play is Letang's weak spot (as we all saw in his 7 games), I would have thought that RS would at least give him a half-season in the AHL, otherwise he may develop as another Gonchar, completely one-dimensional.
eastonpensfan
AHL All-Star
AHL All-Star
 
Posts: 5,442
Joined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:19 pm
Location: on the Professional Noodling Tour

Postby pfim on Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:41 am

And I hate to think of him turboing and and hammering our dmen on another team.


The problem with him is that he doesn't do it consistently.

As far as Letang goes, I am pretty shocked at Shero's comment. I really don't know what to say, I hope he has improved dramatically since last season.
pfim
NHL Fourth Liner
NHL Fourth Liner
 
Posts: 16,789
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:35 am
Location: Sitting in front of my computer

Postby Mad City Mike on Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:50 am

By far the worst news to come out fo this article was this quote from Shero that was kind of buried amongst everything else:

"It's hard to say we're going to get a top-two guy to play with [Sergei] Gonchar, unless you're spending $4 million or $5 million dollars and giving [a long-term deal].


That pretty much implies Gonchar will be back, that Shero either has not shopped him or shopped him and found no takers. Yo, Ray, this is not a good way to stay on my good side :evil: .
Mad City Mike
AHL All-Star
AHL All-Star
 
Posts: 5,823
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:14 am
Location: De Forest, WI

Postby penny lane on Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:04 am

Mad City Mike wrote:By far the worst news to come out fo this article was this quote from Shero that was kind of buried amongst everything else:

"It's hard to say we're going to get a top-two guy to play with [Sergei] Gonchar, unless you're spending $4 million or $5 million dollars and giving [a long-term deal].


That pretty much implies Gonchar will be back, that Shero either has not shopped him or shopped him and found no takers. Yo, Ray, this is not a good way to stay on my good side :evil: .


Implies...but keep hope, maybe he wanted to say:
"hard to say whether I will find a more suitable home
for Sergei." "Which then would free up some monies
for the top two defenseman."
penny lane
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 28,867
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:29 pm
Location: Have fun, kick butt!

Postby Jasmine on Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:05 am

http://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/Top_NHL_Defensemen/13555
There are some great defensemen at the top of this list for sure, but Gonchar is not the worst dman you could have. What's with the constant Sergei bashing? :?
Jasmine
ECHL'er
ECHL'er
 
Posts: 1,197
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:50 pm
Location: Where I eat, drink and sleep hockey . . . like Sid

Re: I'll miss Petro

Postby Ginger on Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:10 am

Penspal wrote:And I hate to think of him turboing and and hammering our dmen on another team.

I really don't unserstand this move to be honest. I'm going to guess that Laraque is the guy replacing him, but I sure hope he speeds up considerably.

Good Luck Petro wherever you land, and take it easy on our Pens.


I was thinking the same thing. It's not so much their loss to our roster as it is what they can do to our roster of players on another team. :(
I still have kinda mixed feelings about Laraque too so I'm not sure I like relying on him so much.
Ginger
ECHL'er
ECHL'er
 
Posts: 1,734
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:32 pm
Location: Basically in my own little world

Postby Jim on Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:24 am

Jasmine wrote:http://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/Top_NHL_Defensemen/13555
There are some great defensemen at the top of this list for sure, but Gonchar is not the worst dman you could have. What's with the constant Sergei bashing? :?


Everyone get's bashed. EVERYONE. Well, maybe not Talbot, but everyone else. Crosby, Malkin, Gonchar, MAF, Whitney, everyone.
Jim
NHL Healthy Scratch
NHL Healthy Scratch
 
Posts: 11,951
Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:18 pm
Location: Pittsburgh

Postby Mad City Mike on Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:33 am

Jasmine wrote:http://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/Top_NHL_Defensemen/13555
There are some great defensemen at the top of this list for sure, but Gonchar is not the worst dman you could have. What's with the constant Sergei bashing? :?


Sergei Gonchar (Pittsburgh)
- Has size, speed and a wicked shot from the point. Makes crisp passes to get out of the defensive zone or lugs the puck up ice with speed.


That has to be one of the worst scouting reports I have seen. It should read:

- Has good size, but fails to use it effectively. Has strong shot from point, but often takes far too long to release it. Very slow at moving puck out of zone. Not a good outlet passer. Refuses to take a hit to make a play. Gutless.

Does that answer your question about Sergei bashing?
Mad City Mike
AHL All-Star
AHL All-Star
 
Posts: 5,823
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:14 am
Location: De Forest, WI

Postby demondg1 on Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:51 am

I'll miss Petro. But hopefully this gives more ice time to Thorburn. Which I think is a good thing.

I wouldn't have minded Kiwi sticking around as a 6th/7th d-man.
demondg1
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 2,606
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:30 pm
Location: Parts Unknown

Postby Loaf31 on Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:07 am

demondg1 wrote:I'll miss Petro. But hopefully this gives more ice time to Thorburn. Which I think is a good thing.

I wouldn't have minded Kiwi sticking around as a 6th/7th d-man.


I agree with both points here, I think Thorburn is a younger version of Petro, with more of an upside.

Kiwi we hardly knew ye
Loaf31
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 4,585
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:25 pm
Location: Fredericktown, PA

Postby peterleefan on Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:13 am

pfim wrote:I guess the only somewhat suprising one is Petrovicky, although I don't think it's much of a loss.

Thorburn could replace him........
peterleefan
Junior 'A'
Junior 'A'
 
Posts: 440
Joined: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:28 pm
Location: Mon Valley

Postby stefanh on Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:18 am

eastonpensfan wrote:
bh wrote:Sounds like he's talking like Letang is on the team already.


I noticed the same thing and that surprised me. Especially since the Q is such an offensive-minded league and defensive play is Letang's weak spot (as we all saw in his 7 games), I would have thought that RS would at least give him a half-season in the AHL, otherwise he may develop as another Gonchar, completely one-dimensional.


The talk is though that Letang really improved his D this season.

These awards perhaps doesn´t say everything but should say something.

2007-04-04 * 2006-07 Season - Trophy Butch Bouchard (best defenseman)
Kristopher Letang, Val-d'Or

2007-04-04 * 2006-07 Season - Trophy Kevin Lowe (best defensive defenseman)
Kristopher Letang, Val-d'Or

2007-04-04 * 2006-07 Season - Trophy Paul Dumont (Personnality of the year)
Kristopher Letang, Val-d'Or

Still I agree that Letang shouldn´t be rushed and it´s a huge step to take for a 20 year old defenseman. Definitly one of the more interesting guys to watch in the camp.
stefanh
Junior 'A'
Junior 'A'
 
Posts: 361
Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:41 pm
Location: Gothenburg Sweden

Postby pcm on Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:29 am

Teppo Numminen would make a great #5 to play with / mentor Letang.
pcm
AHL All-Star
AHL All-Star
 
Posts: 6,599
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:39 am
Location: mountains

Next

Return to Pittsburgh Penguins

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: litz2010, Pitts and 19 guests


e-mail