Can anyone name some available players coming up in FA?

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Postby NIN on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:15 pm

Paulie_Walnutz wrote:
NIN wrote:
Paulie_Walnutz wrote:
borohcky9 wrote:D- Frantisek Kaberle, Karlis Skrastins, Willie Mitchell, Niklas Lidstrom, Andreas Lilja, Joe Corvo, Nathan Dempsey, Danny Markov, Marek Zidlicky, Zdeno Chara, Wade Redden, Kim Johnssonj, Aki Berg, Ed Jovanovski, Ivan Majesky


F- David Vyborny, David Legwand, Jeff Halpern, Sergei Samsonov

Max Afinogenov could possibly be, but no one knows for sure.


There are very many players on that list who I would like to see, but I'll list the realistic possibilities.
Defense. Chara-no way Ottawa parts with this guy. Lidstrom - the best offensive defenseman in the game since Coffey in his prime. With Yzerman most likely retiring, Lidstrom will remain a Wing. Markov - I'm kind of on the fense with him. He is one of those players who isn't quite in his prime anymore. I'd be worried that his ability could turn south. I wouldn't sign him for alot of money. Redden - I'll say, that if the Pens want to get a good, responsible defenseman to teach Welch, this is the guy they need to get. Seems like a pretty realistic signing. I could go either way with Berg and Jonsson. Jovo would be a nice addition, but I'm trying to be too realistic.

As for forwards, I think the Pens do need a speedy winger, who can finish to put along side Crosby. Malone would work, I feel, but he could not keep up in the skating department. Legwand or Afinogenov seem like logical picks, but I don't think it will happen. However, what I think they need even more is a good, reliable 3rd line center. In this case, I do believe that Halpern will be in Pittsburgh next year. Wait, Halpern is a center isn't he??? If so, I think this will show that Malone as a center was just an experiment. I think Malone will be far more valueble on the 2nd line with Malkin, than as the 3rd line center. Provided he doesn't come out of training camp with the attitude that it's his birthrite to be on the team.
And they will round out the 4th line with a combination of Roy, Talbot, Vandenbusche, Koltsov.


Afiniganev is actually an RFA this season, so I think you can move over to the unrealistic list. Unfortunately.

Well, that was based on the names provided. However, I think the biggest need is for that 3rd line center, who can step up to the 2nd line if need be. And I think Halpern is that guy. Plus, I don't think he will command that much money. With all of the rumors going on in the last 4 years, I can't say that it's impossible. However, Nik Antropov has been rumored to be traded to Pitt, virtually, ever since he donned a Leafs jersey.

As for someone with speed who can play, and keep up with Crosby, I think that will come from within. Perhaps, Oullette can improve on his speed in the offseason.

Could you imagine if Oullette had the wheels of Koltsov.


I think Halpern is O..K..but I am not certain if he is stellar on faceoffs. I looked for some stats but NHL.com has hide them from me very effectively. If he is 52% or better than he could definately be an asset. by the way, are you still as dumbfounded as me about Patrick's absolute denial about the Penguins need for a faceoff guy this summer? Amazing when you consider the fact that there were some good draw-men out there.

If Oullette had Robby Browns wheels he could score 30/season or more. Well maybe he isn't that slow but I don't think he can get much faster at this point in his career. I hope they don't give up on him but I don't see too many 4th liner/PP specialist around the league.

Now if Koltsov had Oullettes hands he would score 50!!
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Postby Paulie_Walnutz on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:30 pm

I'm not sure about his faceoff numbers, but I can't imagine that they'd be any worse than whoever they throw out there now. Malone's numbers seem to be improving on the Faceoff, but as I said, I think he is far more valuable on the 2nd line with Malkin than as a 3rd line center. A guy I wanted them to get last year that they didn't even consider is Travis Green. I'm pretty sure he was unrestricted last year. I could be wrong. I still don't think I have ever seen him lose a faceoff.

As for Patrick, I was disappointed that they were willing to rely on Lasse for the 2nd line center spot. I was willing to give Patrick a pass, because he was finally working on an even keel with all of the other GMs. I stayed positive, but with the signing of Gonchar, the resigning of Tarnstrom, and the signing of Odelien and Poapst as your stay at home defemsemen. I thought that is what killed them. I'll be honest and say that I didn't think they would be the worst team in the league. But the fact that he thought that the stay at home, positional defenseman was a thing of the past, really worried me. I remember Madden saying that Hatcher was a bad signing for Philly because he would be obsolete in the new league. Well, with as much as I hate Hatcher, and I'd probably still hate him, I'd love to have him in a Pens sweater.
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Postby Henry Hank on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:37 pm

Halpern's faceoffs are at 55%. I really like the idea of signing him. He's a right-handed center who's strong on faceoffs, he has some offensive talent, and he's pesky.

Not a signing, but what about Michael Peca? I only say this if the Pens are in a situation where salary cap-wise, they HAVE to spend money because they're below the minimum. He wants out of Edmonton, and I'm sure they'd give him away for little if someone would take his contract. He's still a good player if a team doesn't expect him to be more than a checking line center.

In the end, as long as Malkin comes over, I won't lose sleep if no forwards are brought in over the summer. This team's had no problem scoring goals recently. They seem to have put together a offensively talented group by this point, and Malkin will only help.

Defense NEEDS to be addressed more than anything. At least one legit good right-handed defensive defenseman is needed. Welch should help, and I'm expecting improvements from Orpik and especially Whitney.
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Postby Paulie_Walnutz on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:45 pm

Henry Hank wrote:Halpern's faceoffs are at 55%. I really like the idea of signing him. He's a right-handed center who's strong on faceoffs, he has some offensive talent, and he's pesky.

Not a signing, but what about Michael Peca? I only say this if the Pens are in a situation where salary cap-wise, they HAVE to spend money because they're below the minimum. He wants out of Edmonton, and I'm sure they'd give him away for little if someone would take his contract. He's still a good player if a team doesn't expect him to be more than a checking line center.

In the end, as long as Malkin comes over, I won't lose sleep if no forwards are brought in over the summer. This team's had no problem scoring goals recently. They seem to have put together a offensively talented group by this point, and Malkin will only help.

Defense NEEDS to be addressed more than anything. At least one legit good right-handed defensive defenseman is needed. Welch should help, and I'm expecting improvements from Orpik and especially Whitney.
Hey thanks for the stat Henry. I like Peca, as a player too. However, he will not want to go to a team as bad as this and play center on the 3rd line. But if Malkin comes over, there is no way to justify putting Peca on the top two lines. I think Halpern is ideal. But there are a few out there that I would rather have.

As for bringing in a forward, it's not the scoring that is the problem. It's the defensive zone responsibilities. There are some guys who have played really well on the back check. Armstrong, Talbot, even Koltsov, and Malone. But most of these forwards are missing defensive zone assignments way too often. And on a team with this many bad defensemen, that can't happen. Even Crosby has missed alot of assignments in his own end. However, he will learn in time.
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Postby NIN on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:45 pm

Paulie_Walnutz wrote:I'm not sure about his faceoff numbers, but I can't imagine that they'd be any worse than whoever they throw out there now. Malone's numbers seem to be improving on the Faceoff, but as I said, I think he is far more valuable on the 2nd line with Malkin than as a 3rd line center. A guy I wanted them to get last year that they didn't even consider is Travis Green. I'm pretty sure he was unrestricted last year. I could be wrong. I still don't think I have ever seen him lose a faceoff.

As for Patrick, I was disappointed that they were willing to rely on Lasse for the 2nd line center spot. I was willing to give Patrick a pass, because he was finally working on an even keel with all of the other GMs. I stayed positive, but with the signing of Gonchar, the resigning of Tarnstrom, and the signing of Odelien and Poapst as your stay at home defemsemen. I thought that is what killed them. I'll be honest and say that I didn't think they would be the worst team in the league. But the fact that he thought that the stay at home, positional defenseman was a thing of the past, really worried me. I remember Madden saying that Hatcher was a bad signing for Philly because he would be obsolete in the new league. Well, with as much as I hate Hatcher, and I'd probably still hate him, I'd love to have him in a Pens sweater.


I hate Hatcher and I think his whole career is overrated. If he played on this team he would instantly become the teams best defender by far.
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