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List of politicans supporting IOC grows

Postby newarenanow on Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:51 pm

Here is a list of 11 more politicans that are supporting the IOC plan.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/new ... etail.html
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Postby Jamie on Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:54 pm

ANd still no endorsement from the Mayor or county executive.
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Postby mepenstim on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:02 pm

Anyone have a list of local politicians who have not endorsed IOC & PittsburghFirst (aside from the 2 most glaring?)

In the long run, if those 2 finally come around and endorse ICO, it would likely carry more weight since they looked at all the options.
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Postby pensfannn on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:05 pm

What the hell does Bob O'Connor do all day?

Bob. Help the Pens out. Do something.
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Postby penny lane on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:46 pm

pensfannn wrote:What the hell does Bob O'Connor do all day?

Bob. Help the Pens out. Do something.


Super Bob
shows up at almost all crime scenes and other
events in Pittsburgh. :roll: I don't think he's been at his
desk for an entire day.
Last seen with body guard when pigeon guy was loose on Penn Avenue.
:lol:
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Postby Pitts on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:52 pm

I saw him on the news a few weeks back "touring" through run-down and vacant city properties. Probably looking for junk he could re-sell on eBay! :D
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Postby newarenanow on Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:56 pm

mepenstim wrote:Anyone have a list of local politicians who have not endorsed IOC & PittsburghFirst (aside from the 2 most glaring?)

In the long run, if those 2 finally come around and endorse ICO, it would likely carry more weight since they looked at all the options.


Go to the pittsburgh first offical website. You can get the site at www.pittsburghpenguins.com. It has a list of all western PA officals not yet committed and their email addresses.
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Postby Paulie_Walnutz on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:27 pm

Pitts wrote:I saw him on the news a few weeks back "touring" through run-down and vacant city properties. Probably looking for junk he could re-sell on eBay! :D


Are you sure he wasn't looking for a new home for the Pens?
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Re: Super-Bob

Postby Paulie_Walnutz on Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:28 pm

penny lane wrote:
pensfannn wrote:What the hell does Bob O'Connor do all day?

Bob. Help the Pens out. Do something.


Super Bob
shows up at almost all crime scenes and other
events in Pittsburgh. :roll: I don't think he's been at his
desk for an entire day.
Last seen with body guard when pigeon guy was loose on Penn Avenue.
:lol:

You forgot to mention the bulletproof vest. This guy is all about the TV time. Makes you wish that Peduto had been elected. At least we know he would've aligned himself with Swann.
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Postby Zscout on Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:02 pm

I wonder how much Swann and the eleven cost IOC to show support in a process they have no say in.
What a joke.
Why won't investors put a billion into the Hill development - without the casino? Where have these eleven been the last decade? Where were they during the bankruptcy? Why haven't they thrown any energy into getting a deal done five years ago?
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Postby HomerPenguin on Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:35 pm

Zscout wrote:I wonder how much Swann and the eleven cost IOC to show support in a process they have no say in.


LOL. Hopefully they charged IoC more than Fast Eddie charged Forest City.

What a joke.
Why won't investors put a billion into the Hill development - without the casino? Where have these eleven been the last decade? Where were they during the bankruptcy? Why haven't they thrown any energy into getting a deal done five years ago?


Damnit, why won't a billion dollars fall from the sky and land on the Hill District, or maybe in Fast Eddie's pocket?

The investors obviously think that the new arena and the new slots casino would be important anchors in Hill District redevelopment. You can't expect their decision-making to be the same in the absence of those two very significant entities. That's pretty silly.

As for the eleven politicians, who the hell cares where they've been? They're here now; where they've been is water under the bridge. Is it more important to get political support behind a new arena for Pittsburgh, or to make sure that the arena plan is only supported by politicians who have been intellectually and morally consistent throughout their careers (as if you could find any)?

Give Fast Eddie our best next time you see him.
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Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:14 pm

I think Bob O'Connor and John Street (Philly's mayor) have the same barber.

http://bikesbelong.org/page.cfm?PageID=55
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Postby bill from turtle creek on Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:50 pm

Jamie wrote:ANd still no endorsement from the Mayor or county executive.


In fact, the erstwhile mayor labels the plan a loser.

http://www.wpxi.com/news/8345480/detail.html
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Postby skullman80 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:52 pm

bill from turtle creek wrote:
Jamie wrote:ANd still no endorsement from the Mayor or county executive.


In fact, the erstwhile mayor labels the plan a loser.

http://www.wpxi.com/news/8345480/detail.html


Wow.

Did O'Connor actually come out and say that. There are no quotes in the article from him...


Mayor Bob O'Connor said the plan doesn't have a good chance of becoming a reality

That is just a damning comment though.
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BOC is da man :)

Postby SportsFan on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:04 pm

Sorry, but after deadhead Murphy, O'Connor is 1000 times better already. The guy goes out in the community and is seen. The way he handled the school shooting was great, he even goes to the sporting events for high schools which is cool.

I love the Pens and I want them to stay, but the plan for Station Square is the better one for the city as a whole. Remember the mayor's job is to do what is BEST FOR THE CITY, not the Penguins.

The only good thing outside of the Arena plan for the IOC is it may clean up the Hill District area, which is still marginal.
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Re: BOC is da man :)

Postby bill from turtle creek on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:22 pm

SportsFan wrote:Sorry, but after deadhead Murphy, O'Connor is 1000 times better already. The guy goes out in the community and is seen. The way he handled the school shooting was great, he even goes to the sporting events for high schools which is cool.

I love the Pens and I want them to stay, but the plan for Station Square is the better one for the city as a whole. Remember the mayor's job is to do what is BEST FOR THE CITY, not the Penguins.

The only good thing outside of the Arena plan for the IOC is it may clean up the Hill District area, which is still marginal.


Wow. The mayor walks the streets! He goes to high school sporting events! And if it weren't for him, that guy who was thinking of shooting pigeons with an air rifle might have changed his mind and gotten a semiautomatic assault rifle and started shooting priests and ministers. You're right, he's the man to lead this city back into the 19th century.

I guess you didn't read the Trib article today that basically reveals the FC proposal to be all lies and exaggerations.
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Re: BOC is da man :)

Postby skullman80 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:25 pm

SportsFan wrote:Sorry, but after deadhead Murphy, O'Connor is 1000 times better already. The guy goes out in the community and is seen. The way he handled the school shooting was great, he even goes to the sporting events for high schools which is cool.

I love the Pens and I want them to stay, but the plan for Station Square is the better one for the city as a whole. Remember the mayor's job is to do what is BEST FOR THE CITY, not the Penguins.

The only good thing outside of the Arena plan for the IOC is it may clean up the Hill District area, which is still marginal.


Taking the whole arena thing out of this.

How is the station square deal better. You have an already developed area, compared to the lower hill which is in shambles.

Also, IF FC's numbers are correct then please tell me where all this traffic is gonna go.

You have Carson street down by Station square as your ONLY MAJOR road. Have you seen the traffic nightmares down there on a normal friday/sat night? It's horrendus. Are they gonna erect some bridges or somehow widen streets.

Traffic in that area will be worse than it already is, which is terrible. That's what I want to know about FC's plan more than anything. The numbers themselves have already been questioned.

The IOC plan is the best for the city, whether the Pens are here or not, just because this city needs a new arena no matter what. Period.
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Postby SportsFan on Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:58 pm

How is it better?

150 Million to community projects.

Arena is important, but in my eyes there are alot more imporatnt things.

I guess I am being goofy considering I am against the whole casino thing anyways.
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Postby Jasmine on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:18 pm

SportsFan wrote:
I love the Pens and I want them to stay, but the plan for Station Square is the better one for the city as a whole. Remember the mayor's job is to do what is BEST FOR THE CITY, not the Penguins.

Is that YOU, governor? Better quit wasting time posting . . . you have to announce your Plan B(S) tomorrow!
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Postby skullman80 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:21 pm

SportsFan wrote:How is it better?

150 Million to community projects.

Arena is important, but in my eyes there are alot more imporatnt things.

I guess I am being goofy considering I am against the whole casino thing anyways.


What's this 150 million you speak off? Did I miss that somewhere?

I still want to know where all this traffic is gonna go. No one is gonna go to the Casino if they can't get there. Carson street is the only main aretery downthere and it can't handle traffic as it is right now. It would be a nightmare if you were to increase traffic ten fold in that area, unless some more bridges are gonna be put up. Plus as I said before...the Lower Hill is in terrible need of some help.

I just don't believe you can pass up the chance to build an arena now, for basically nothing, when 3 years from now the taxpayers will be footing the entire bill.
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Postby netwolf on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:21 pm

SportsFan wrote:I guess I am being goofy considering I am against the whole casino thing anyways.


Thatr explains why you "think" Station Square is better. You want the slots thing to be a disaster, you so back the one with the potential for the biggest failure as they are alleged to have inflated their projections. :wink:
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Postby SportsFan on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:22 pm

Jasmine wrote:SportsFan wrote:
I love the Pens and I want them to stay, but the plan for Station Square is the better one for the city as a whole. Remember the mayor's job is to do what is BEST FOR THE CITY, not the Penguins.

Is that YOU, governor? Better quit wasting time posting . . . you have to announce your Plan B(S) tomorrow!


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune ... 27696.html

http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_023114031.html

IOC said City would get a million a year revenue, The guy from Harrah's Entertainment was on Fred Honsberger the other day and said they could triple that amount.

Now they may also throw some in for a new arena.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=94668
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Postby skullman80 on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:25 pm

SportsFan wrote:
Jasmine wrote:SportsFan wrote:
I love the Pens and I want them to stay, but the plan for Station Square is the better one for the city as a whole. Remember the mayor's job is to do what is BEST FOR THE CITY, not the Penguins.

Is that YOU, governor? Better quit wasting time posting . . . you have to announce your Plan B(S) tomorrow!


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune ... 27696.html



You aren't basing your opinion solely on that article ...are you?
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Postby SportsFan on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:33 pm

No I basing it on what I read in the paper and hear from there mouths. I am not like the out of city fans who don't care one bit about the city, but just the team. I am not like the fans who just likes the IOC plan cause Mario backs it up.
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Postby SportsFan on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:36 pm

http://pittsburgh.bizjournals.com/pitts ... ily14.html

"Forest City Enterprises, which wants to build a casino in Pittsburgh that would be operated by Harrah's Entertainment, told local officials its slots plan would be worth nearly $120 million more to the city and state than competing proposals."
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