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Postby Vanbiesbrouck on Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:50 am

I still think Lundqvist is being over-hyped. He deserves the accolades he's getting this season, and is leading the Rangers places they wouldn't have gotten without him.

However, you can't really say he's going to be a superstar the way you can with the others. Goalies are so streaky, even for entire seasons. I wouldn't be surprised to see him fade and be pedestrian next year, especially given a Ranger defense that could allow that to happen much quicker than other teams would.
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Postby MrKnowNothing on Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:05 am

True enough. I was thinking something similar to that when I was posting, though.

I think he will be pretty consistent, although we might not see a goalie ever be dominant year in and year out again with the way things are in the league.
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Postby Super Slovak Surovy on Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:49 am

Lundqvist should win it, hands down.
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Postby Super Slovak Surovy on Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:51 am

Vanbiesbrouck wrote:I still think Lundqvist is being over-hyped. He deserves the accolades he's getting this season, and is leading the Rangers places they wouldn't have gotten without him.

However, you can't really say he's going to be a superstar the way you can with the others. Goalies are so streaky, even for entire seasons. I wouldn't be surprised to see him fade and be pedestrian next year, especially given a Ranger defense that could allow that to happen much quicker than other teams would.


yeah look at fleury (i'm not dissing him, i think hes great)
i mean at times he's unstoppable, but other times he's like ugghhhh *cringe*
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:03 am

Kicksave wrote: Jagr, on the other hand, has had an amazing season but to directly credit Lundquist's success to Jagr is propostorous.


Where in Blazes did I do that... stop puting words in my mouth.

It'd help if you actually read what someone posted before responding.

Show me where I said Lundquists success was due to Jagr????

:roll:

*You* are the one who said Lundquist was the sole reason the Rangers were winning. Now that's Preposterous.

No one player can carry any team.
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Postby Kicksave on Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:15 am

ExPatriatePen wrote:
Kicksave wrote: Jagr, on the other hand, has had an amazing season but to directly credit Lundquist's success to Jagr is propostorous.


Where in Blazes did I do that... stop puting words in my mouth.

It'd help if you actually read what someone posted before responding.

Show me where I said Lundquists success was due to Jagr????

:roll:

*You* are the one who said Lundquist was the sole reason the Rangers were winning. Now that's Preposterous.

No one player can carry any team.


Oy, not the reilly roll lol

I just assumed that by you bring up Jagr that is the reason as to why Lundquist shouldn't deserve roty honors. I didn't say that he is the sole reason, I am just saying he is a HUGE reason, not the only.
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Postby penny lane on Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:30 am

http://www.zwire.com/site/printerFriend ... d=16452873

mr san filippo floats out there that Sidney could win the Calder
because he is the "golden boy" of Canada. :roll:
I see an anti Sid influence pre/post olympics.
So according to this flyer-non partisan Sidney is 4th after.

Those flyer people still don't like Jaromir...just like penguin fans.
Or, most penguin fans. :wink:
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:54 am

ExPatriatePen wrote:
Kicksave wrote:And hes one of the sole reasons why the Rangers are winning right now.


Might have something to do with a guy named Jagr too! :-)

But I agree, Lundqvist is awesome.

I can't remember when we've had so many great young goalies in the league. It's really exciting.


My post above gives Lundquist his 'props'. I've been fortunate enough to be able to watch tons of Rangers games this year as I live in their home market.

Lundquist is awesome, I've been saying it since before the Holidays. He's been a pleasure to watch, particulary because everyone was so concerned about the goalie slot after Richter retired and Blackburn went down with the injury.

I don't think there's any doubt that AO will, and should, win the Calder... But the top 6 or even 7 rookies are phenominal this year.
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Postby Jim on Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:24 pm

Super Slovak Surovy wrote:Lundqvist should win it, hands down.


WOW!

Reality check time.
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Re: ~anthony san filippo heard from on the post-season award

Postby FuturePens on Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:27 pm

penny lane wrote:http://www.zwire.com/site/printerFriendly.cfm?brd=1675&dept_id=18170&newsid=16452873



Do you write this ??? :lol:
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Postby FuturePens on Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:29 pm

Jim wrote:
Super Slovak Surovy wrote:Lundqvist should win it, hands down.


WOW!

Reality check time.


Seriously, Svatos has a better chance than Lunqvist in my opinion, look at his stats again please ! 8)
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Postby Kovy27 on Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:03 pm

FuturePens wrote:
Jim wrote:
Super Slovak Surovy wrote:Lundqvist should win it, hands down.


WOW!

Reality check time.


Seriously, Svatos has a better chance than Lunqvist in my opinion, look at his stats again please ! 8)


Svatos has no chance. He got hurt with a month to go.

Lunqvist should win the ROY imo. He took that team from mediocre to great in a season. If Weekes was the goalie all year, they sure as hell wouldn't be in the playoffs.
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Re: ~anthony san filippo heard from on the post-season award

Postby penny lane on Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:04 pm

FuturePens wrote:
penny lane wrote:http://www.zwire.com/site/printerFriendly.cfm?brd=1675&dept_id=18170&newsid=16452873



Do you write this ??? :lol:


:shock: shockingly it was written by a woman, Bridgette somebody,
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Postby DayWalker on Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:56 pm

I give it to Lundqvist, with Ovechkin a close second.

I also think that Ovechkin is indeed better than Crosby AT THIS POINT. I would be surprised, however, if many personnel folks around the league would take Oveckin over Crosby long-term...
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Postby FuturePens on Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:07 pm

DayWalker wrote:I give it to Lundqvist, with Ovechkin a close second.

I also think that Ovechkin is indeed better than Crosby AT THIS POINT. I would be surprised, however, if many personnel folks around the league would take Oveckin over Crosby long-term...


Ovechkin is not as good as Crosby and will never be. period. :lol:
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Postby Super Slovak Surovy on Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:02 am

i really dont mean to be rude
but its spelled Lundqvist
not lunquist....
its that weird swedish spelling
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Postby FuturePens on Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:02 pm

It's ok, I simply did not bother to look it up...

Crosby's 2 points vs. the Flyer's brings him up to 93 points, only 7 behind Ovechkin...he's getting closer... :P
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Postby FuturePens on Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:20 am

Now Crosby is only 5 points behind Ovechkin and he's also closing the gap on the +- department with -3...I really like his chances with Islanders coming up twice !
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Postby wondermoose on Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:39 am

wouldn't it be something if he somehow managed to outscore AO by the end of the season? Lol, it would be toooooooo funny.
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Postby Jim on Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:12 am

Super Slovak Surovy wrote:that weird swedish spelling


Darn immigrants!
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Postby relantel on Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:10 pm

ziggystardust wrote:Ovechkin is better than Crosby right now.


Down the stretch, though, Crosby has been more consistent than AO. Doubt even passing AO would sway the voters, but one cannot say Crosby didn't show up at the end. A hell of a finish, and makes the games fun to watch on Centre Ice too. (And gets us away from that Berinato fellow on Caps broadcasts here in DC)
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Postby FuturePens on Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:22 pm

relantel wrote:
ziggystardust wrote:Ovechkin is better than Crosby right now.


Down the stretch, though, Crosby has been more consistent than AO. Doubt even passing AO would sway the voters, but one cannot say Crosby didn't show up at the end. A hell of a finish, and makes the games fun to watch on Centre Ice too. (And gets us away from that Berinato fellow on Caps broadcasts here in DC)


Crosby has a ton of nice goals this year also, it's just that they seem so effortless when he does it. He has instinct and knows where to be when there is a lose puck, kind of like last night vs. the Rangers when he simply knew that the rebound was going to be on the left side of the pad.
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Postby FuturePens on Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:44 pm

Look at that, Crosby's got 100 points now...not a surprise at all...and...he's only a -1 on the season. Ovechkin has 105 points and is a +2.

Sorry, but if Crosby can get a few more points and gets back to even, and Ovechkin gets blanked; we got ourselves a difficult decision.

Don't you think?
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Postby Jim on Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:49 pm

The hockey press have been on their knees in front of AO all season. The scoring side of the decision is basically a wash at this point. Less than 5% difference... no big deal. It should then go to the rest of the two players game... but it wont. AO floats all game and then throws a few hits when there are 5 minutes left in a game and for some realson he's is labeled as a physical force. Whatever.
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