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Isle of Capri promoting Hill District grocery

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Thu May 11, 2006 9:54 am

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06131/689271-53.stm

From the article - In a survey filled out by about 100 residents who attended a Hill gaming task force meeting Monday, 60 percent felt that the Isle of Capri plan, as now constituted, was "unacceptable."

"The Hill District community at large does not want gambling on the Hill. That was clearly the message [Monday]. The only way gaming would be acceptable or tolerated is if the reinvestment is significant enough to address the social challenges" gambling would create and provide for development opportunities beyond the lower Hill, said Evan Frazier, co-chair of the Hill gaming task force.

Of those surveyed, 75 percent found PITG Gaming LLC's plan for a North Shore casino and $350 million in lower Hill development to be "acceptable" or "exceptional." Fifty-seven percent found the Forest City Enterprises plan relating to a Station Square casino "unacceptable."

Mr. Frazier, president and CEO of the Hill House Association, found Isle of Capri's interest in a Hill grocery "encouraging" but added there has been no detail as to exactly what that entails.


I wonder why 75% approved of PITG's proposal? Maybe because Don Barden is black?

notice that both IoC and FC both have roughly the same approval rating.

I like the idea of IoC getting involved with a grocery store. I have a feeling that all 3 groups will be adding in even more perks and community give-backs as this process continues.
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Postby newarenanow on Thu May 11, 2006 10:06 am

I doubt Forest City will too much more. If you look at the original plans, Barden added the most, followed by the IOC.

Forest City has not changed their original plan at all. They didn't even commit to the money for an arena under Plan 'B' yet.

They they still win this license with only a $25M giveback to the historical society and $1M a year to a city community fund, then this is a farce.

If their earning are correct (that's laughable), it will only save the residents of this county about 200-300 a year in tax savings. But we will take a hit in our quality of living and lose out on a huge entertainment venue. This city sucks enough, they can't afford to lose anymore entertainment.
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Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Thu May 11, 2006 10:17 am

newarenanow wrote:I doubt Forest City will too much more. If you look at the original plans, Barden added the most, followed by the IOC.

Forest City has not changed their original plan at all. They didn't even commit to the money for an arena under Plan 'B' yet.

They they still win this license with only a $25M giveback to the historical society and $1M a year to a city community fund, then this is a farce.



I agree. The whole arguement behind opening up the licenses to bids was to get more than just $$$ back to the community. If Forest City wins with hardly nothing given back other than a redevelopment of an already developed area then it will be evident that the whole process was fixed.
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Re: Isle of Capri promoting Hill District grocery

Postby Pitts on Thu May 11, 2006 10:31 am

Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:I wonder why 75% approved of PITG's proposal? Maybe because Don Barden is black?

That and, they get the best of both worlds. Pittsburgh gets a casino in an area away from most residential areas and the Hill gets new development. If he would get the license and Plan B goes through, it turns out as a win-win-win for everyone involved.

I still remain certain the Pens will stay regardless of who wins the license. The governement leaders of this area may be pretty inept, but, I really don't think they'd be THAT stupid as to let the Pens leave town.
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Re: Isle of Capri promoting Hill District grocery

Postby newarenanow on Thu May 11, 2006 10:41 am

Pitts wrote:
Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:I wonder why 75% approved of PITG's proposal? Maybe because Don Barden is black?

That and, they get the best of both worlds. Pittsburgh gets a casino in an area away from most residential areas and the Hill gets new development. If he would get the license and Plan B goes through, it turns out as a win-win-win for everyone involved.

I still remain certain the Pens will stay regardless of who wins the license. The governement leaders of this area may be pretty inept, but, I really don't think they'd be THAT stupid as to let the Pens leave town.


It's not up to the politicans now. They presented their plan, now it is up to the Pens to agree to it, and depending on who buys the team, they may not accept it. The only thing that guarantees the Pens staying is the IOC plan.

I'm not saying they are definitely leaving under Plan 'B', I'm just saying chances of them staying under Plan 'B' is not as good as some people think.
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Postby Pops16 on Thu May 11, 2006 4:20 pm

A while ago, someone came on here asking for help with a project for a architecture class. He wanted to know what kind of business he should put in the Hill District development...to which I replied...grocery store, they've wanted one forever and it has been a big issue to the Hill.

Wonder if he went to the IOC with his plan?
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