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Shanny to Pens still possible?

Postby Doogs on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:12 pm

OVer on Hockeybuzz a guy said on Thursday on Fan590 that the thing that is holding up Shanny to Pens is his family like NY. He is working on convincing them?

Can we call BS on this?
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Postby bhaw on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:17 pm

I would call BS... NY to Pitt is not that far. On a one year contract, I'm sure he could figure something out. It makes even less sense if the Pens are pursuing Gaborik like they claim as well.
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Postby Doogs on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:19 pm

I agree, but I think Shanny is more likely than Gaborik.
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Postby mikey287 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:22 pm

Why do we need Shanahan? Power play specialist/Roberts leadership replacement? He's gotten a little heavy in the feet department to play on a line with Sid even strength...besides Godard, he'd probably be the slowest forward on the team...
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Postby Doogs on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:24 pm

mikey287 wrote:Why do we need Shanahan? Power play specialist/Roberts leadership replacement? He's gotten a little heavy in the feet department to play on a line with Sid even strength...besides Godard, he'd probably be the slowest forward on the team...


Never said weneeded him, just reporting what I heard.

We NEED Gaborik, but we can't afford him. We can afford Shanny, but don't need him.
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Postby Idoit40fans on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:26 pm

They don't need Gaborik, but he would be an awesome player to have on the team.
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Postby mikey287 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:28 pm

Doogs wrote:
mikey287 wrote:Why do we need Shanahan? Power play specialist/Roberts leadership replacement? He's gotten a little heavy in the feet department to play on a line with Sid even strength...besides Godard, he'd probably be the slowest forward on the team...


Never said weneeded him, just reporting what I heard.

We NEED Gaborik, but we can't afford him. We can afford Shanny, but don't need him.


Oh yeah, the question wasn't directed at you, it was just a rhetorical pondering...sorry for the confusion...I understand what you were doing, don't worry :)

Gaborik is sexy as hell...we do need him...
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Postby Doogs on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:29 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:They don't need Gaborik, but he would be an awesome player to have on the team.



Agreed, but I couldn't fit that in the witty way I put the previous post. :roll:
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Postby Idoit40fans on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:31 pm

Doogs wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:They don't need Gaborik, but he would be an awesome player to have on the team.



Agreed, but I couldn't fit that in the witty way I put the previous post. :roll:


They don't need Gaborik but he would be an awesome player to have on the team. They don't want Shanny, and he would not be an awesome player to have on the team.
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Postby bhaw on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:31 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Doogs wrote:
mikey287 wrote:Why do we need Shanahan? Power play specialist/Roberts leadership replacement? He's gotten a little heavy in the feet department to play on a line with Sid even strength...besides Godard, he'd probably be the slowest forward on the team...


Never said weneeded him, just reporting what I heard.

We NEED Gaborik, but we can't afford him. We can afford Shanny, but don't need him.


Oh yeah, the question wasn't directed at you, it was just a rhetorical pondering...sorry for the confusion...I understand what you were doing, don't worry :)

Gaborik is sexy as hell...we do need him...


Gaborik is Hossa's friend. Maybe we can get a package deal next year... both for 10m per year. :D

Shanny is worthless to this team, IMO. How many PP units are we going to have because we already have a pretty full unit plus right now.
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Postby penny lane on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:32 pm

After seeing him almost daily in the play-offs, I think Shanahan is done.
Go with youth! Fine career and good leader but I don't think
he has enough goals left for the pens to commit a salary.
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Postby The U on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:41 pm

Shero doesn't want him. Why would he?

If you watched the Pens vs Rangers series you know this guy doesn't have anything left. You want him to play on the 4th line? He can't play with Sid or Malkin. He wouldn't have a role on this team.
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Postby cs6687 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:52 pm

Unlike Murray and Parrish, Shanahan would be wiling to take a one-year deal. For $1 million, you could do worse than Shanahan, who has scored 23 and 29 goals the last two seasons. Plus, he's a right-handed shot. He could add balance to the PP playing on the left wing boards. I wouldn't be upset if they didn't sign Shanahan, but I don't think having him would make the Penguins worse.
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Postby mikey287 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:56 pm

cs6687 wrote:Unlike Murray and Parrish, Shanahan would be wiling to take a one-year deal. For $1 million, you could do worse than Shanahan, who has scored 23 and 29 goals the last two seasons. Plus, he's a right-handed shot. He could add balance to the PP playing on the left wing boards. I wouldn't be upset if they didn't sign Shanahan, but I don't think having him would make the Penguins worse.


I mean, if we're talking 1 yr, $1 million AND ditching Sydor, I guess so...but I like to have that wiggle room with the cap going into the deadline...

At this point, signing Shanny cancels the wiggle room and I'm not a fan of that...
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Postby Doogs on Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:02 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
Doogs wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:They don't need Gaborik, but he would be an awesome player to have on the team.



Agreed, but I couldn't fit that in the witty way I put the previous post. :roll:


They don't need Gaborik but he would be an awesome player to have on the team. They don't want Shanny, and he would not be an awesome player to have on the team.


That is far better.
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Postby Corvidae on Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:02 pm

mikey287 wrote:
cs6687 wrote:Unlike Murray and Parrish, Shanahan would be wiling to take a one-year deal. For $1 million, you could do worse than Shanahan, who has scored 23 and 29 goals the last two seasons. Plus, he's a right-handed shot. He could add balance to the PP playing on the left wing boards. I wouldn't be upset if they didn't sign Shanahan, but I don't think having him would make the Penguins worse.


I mean, if we're talking 1 yr, $1 million AND ditching Sydor, I guess so...but I like to have that wiggle room with the cap going into the deadline...

At this point, signing Shanny cancels the wiggle room and I'm not a fan of that...


+Shanny -Sydor would be OK with me. Having him on the 3rd line would really increase scoring depth. And anything to make sure we don't see a Dupuis-Staal-Kennedy line is a plus. That line might never even hit the net.
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Postby jmh470 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:27 pm

The main issue with signing Shanahan is the good possibility that Therrien will use him as he used Recchi last year. I wouldn't mind seeing Shanahan play a limited role on the Pens, but the chances of Therrien sufficiently limiting his role are slim.
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Postby demangone on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:37 pm

If you look at his stats, he's never been a postseason performer, except in 01-02 with the Redwings. Also year to year, his regular season stats go from good to great to bad to good. We haven't had a ton of luck with the more veteran players though, Roberts was hurt for a good part of last season, Sydor was the defensive pariah until Conklin was in net, Recchi was just awful, Leclair was just awful. There's a lot to be said about veteran leadership though, I don't know how much of an impact Roberts had in the locker room, or if Sydor helped out any of the younger defensemen. Is 1.8 million a lot for a guidance counselor?
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Postby Samsdog on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:32 pm

I don't realistically see how he fits into the team unless they send TK back to WBS to free up a roster spot or put him on the 4th line (bad move IMO). That assumes Pesonen won't appear on the roster as well. Signing Shanahan would be like the Leclaire signing. No thanks.
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Postby The Joker on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:34 pm

Samsdog wrote:I don't realistically see how he fits into the team unless they send TK back to WBS to free up a roster spot or put him on the 4th line (bad move IMO). That assumes Pesonen won't appear on the roster as well. Signing Shanahan would be like the Leclaire signing. No thanks.


LeClair was signed to be on the top 2 lines and still produce at a pretty good clip, Shanny will be signed to play on the third line in a grinding role and be a Powerplay specialist that still has the ability to net 20-25 goals.

And comparing LeClair (a constant underachiever) to Shanny (one of the best power forwards ever) is a little silly.
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Postby Samsdog on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:40 pm

The Joker wrote:
And comparing LeClair (a constant underachiever) to Shanny (one of the best power forwards ever) is a little silly.


That I will agree with, I mispoke. I just mean that Shanny is on the downswing of his career just as LeClair was, and could end up being a huge disappointment for people who hear the name "LeClair" or "shanahan" and pick their heads up in misplaced excitement.
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Postby The Joker on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:44 pm

Samsdog wrote:
The Joker wrote:
And comparing LeClair (a constant underachiever) to Shanny (one of the best power forwards ever) is a little silly.


That I will agree with, I mispoke. I just mean that Shanny is on the downswing of his career just as LeClair was, and could end up being a huge disappointment for people who hear the name "LeClair" or "shanahan" and pick their heads up in misplaced excitement.


This I agree with. The people that are expecting the Shanahan from 1998 are going to be very disappointed.
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Postby PenguinHockeyFanatic on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:54 pm

The Joker wrote:
Samsdog wrote:
The Joker wrote:
And comparing LeClair (a constant underachiever) to Shanny (one of the best power forwards ever) is a little silly.


That I will agree with, I mispoke. I just mean that Shanny is on the downswing of his career just as LeClair was, and could end up being a huge disappointment for people who hear the name "LeClair" or "shanahan" and pick their heads up in misplaced excitement.


This I agree with. The people that are expecting the Shanahan from 1998 are going to be very disappointed.


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Postby Bowser on Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:14 pm

Let's just say Shanahan is willing to take a 1-yr $1 million deal as he's supposedly willing to do to play one more year with Rags. Where does he fit into the lineup to maximize his production and role in Pittsburgh without exposing his lack of acceleration?

1st Dupuis - Crosby - Satan
2nd Fedotenko - Malkin - Sykora
3rd Cooke - Staal - Kennedy
4th Taffe - Talbot - Godard

At 1-yr $1 million, I'd rather have Shanahan on the third line with Staal and Kennedy forcing Godard to the press box to eat nachos than waste a game roster spot for a guy getting 3-5 minutes per game. Shanny would be a veteran leader this team still needs to have at forward with the lose of Malone and Roberts plus he's a RH shooter for the 2nd or 3rd PP unit.

I think Shanny could play 12-15 minutes per game and score 20. Keep him away from the PK so he's fresh for even-strength and PP duty. He's also a guy who can take an occasional face-off, something this team needs from a RH shooter.
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Postby bhaw on Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:58 pm

Shanny won't score 20 on our 3rd line. The only reason his numbers have been up is because he was playing a top 6 role in NY. If you move him to the 3rd line, he will have minimal contribution.
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