Tampa Re-acquires 3rd round pick from Pens???

[pens#1]

Shero will not rush a player - proof of that was Letang last season, Letang thought he was a lock and had a poor training camp and found himself in WBS with GoGo till he proved himself

[Pitts]

I really hope we don't add jokinen. He's not a first line guy and it will make ice time for quality 3rd-4th line players scarce.

Jokinen is one of the best Finnish players right now.

Man, bse, that doesn't say a whole lot about Finnish players then, does it?

[ffemtreed]

I really hope we don't add jokinen. He's not a first line guy and it will make ice time for quality 3rd-4th line players scarce.

Jokinen is one of the best Finnish players right now.

Yep.
And outside of Staal, he'd be a better fit with Malkin and Sykora than any of the alternatives.

I don't see him taking Malones spot on that line. If he replaces anyone it would be Sykora. The other side of the malkin / sykora line need a body that is going to hit someone and control the puck in the corners, not another perimeter/ get in open space and snipe kinda player.

[columbia]

I really hope we don't add jokinen. He's not a first line guy and it will make ice time for quality 3rd-4th line players scarce.

Jokinen is one of the best Finnish players right now.

Yep.
And outside of Staal, he'd be a better fit with Malkin and Sykora than any of the alternatives.

I don't see him taking Malones spot on that line. If he replaces anyone it would be Sykora. The other side of the malkin / sykora line need a body that is going to hit someone and control the puck in the corners, not another perimeter/ get in open space and snipe kinda player.

I'd certainly be ok w/ him on Crosby's line.

[pens#1]

if we can get him for a 3rd round pick then why not - give it a try and if it doesnt work we could use him to reacquire a pick or as part of a package deal (like he was last year in the Richards trade)

[stefanh]

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/1 ... works.html

according to one of Proteaus sources SHero wants nothing to do with the offer sheet and therefor isn't talking to Tampa about it.

[Ironhorse]

MO is coming back!

[Henry Hank]

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/17692-Multiple-sources-confirm-Meszaros-to-Lightning-deal-in-the-works.html

according to one of Proteaus sources SHero wants nothing to do with the offer sheet and therefor isn't talking to Tampa about it.

That's very very interesting and pretty much kills any ideas people have about the Pens going after RFAs. That Shero allegedly wants nothing to do with offer sheets tells me that other GMs don't either. Shero potentially creates an enemy in Bryan Murray by going along with Tampa's idea and also other GMs around the league who are against them.

[Pitts]

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/17692-Multiple-sources-confirm-Meszaros-to-Lightning-deal-in-the-works.html

according to one of Proteaus sources SHero wants nothing to do with the offer sheet and therefor isn't talking to Tampa about it.

That's very very interesting and pretty much kills any ideas people have about the Pens going after RFAs. That Shero allegedly wants nothing to do with offer sheets tells me that other GMs don't either. Shero potentially creates an enemy in Bryan Murray by going along with Tampa's idea and also other GMs around the league who are against them.

Understandable considering Jordan Staal's status after this season.

[ffemtreed]

Understandable considering Jordan Staal's status after this season.

It only takes one renegade to foul this up. He might stop Bryan Murry from making an offer sheet to Jordan, but what about those whackos out west or even the flyers.

GM's need to start planning their strategy around offer sheets instead of just playing by the old code of don't ask don't tell mentality.

[Pipes Hochuli]

I really hope we don't add jokinen. He's not a first line guy and it will make ice time for quality 3rd-4th line players scarce.

Jokinen is one of the best Finnish players right now.

Man, bse, that doesn't say a whole lot about Finnish players then, does it?

maybe he means Olli

[bhaw]

Understandable considering Jordan Staal's status after this season.

It only takes one renegade to foul this up. He might stop Bryan Murry from making an offer sheet to Jordan, but what about those whackos out west or even the flyers.

GM's need to start planning their strategy around offer sheets instead of just playing by the old code of don't ask don't tell mentality.

There's not much you can do besides get your guys signed early. Making enemies doesn't help the situation, so I can understand why Shero wouldn't want to get involved in this situation. There is no way to plan around a team putting an offer sheet out beyond signing the players ahead of time, which is clearly what he has been doing up to this point.

Staal is hard because I doubt the team wants to commit big money to Staal if what we saw last year is a closer reflection to what we can expect in the future. Staal will try to get big money because he thinks he can play more like his rookie year consistently. No planning in the world can keep that from happening, and the team would be stupid to just give in to his commands at this point in time.

[bringitonhome]

MO is coming back!

and might as well get recchi back too.

[KG]

I don't care what Bryan Murray thinks about RFA's....Bottom line is Shero works for the Penguins. If Tampa is willing to give up a nice asset for their 3rd round pick back then Shero has the duty to make the deal...

If it makes the penguins better, the deal needs to be done...

[Bob McKenzie]

I like Jokinen a lot. It would be a steal if we could get him for the 3rd. He's awesome on shootouts and would make trading Satan easier during the year (to bring in someone on the wing for Sid or a 3rd line center if Staal moves up).

[stefanh]

This story ends here...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=247902& ... Story_main

The Ottawa Senators have traded defenceman Andrej Meszaros to the Tampa Bay Lightning for defencemen Filip Kuba, Alexandre Picard and a first round pick (previously acquired from San Jose)

[Guido]

If jokinen does come to us, imagine our shootout lineup.

Satan
Jokinen
Crosby

Now that is lights out!

Don't even worry about it, Pens still have Kris LeGame.

By the way, now that I see that deal...wow. That's huge! Looks like this season is right around the corner.

[MicP]

This story ends here...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=247902& ... Story_main

The Ottawa Senators have traded defenceman Andrej Meszaros to the Tampa Bay Lightning for defencemen Filip Kuba, Alexandre Picard and a first round pick (previously acquired from San Jose)

Does that make this a NPR thread? Considering Shero wasn't interesed from the start and no Penguins were involved.
Moderators please move this thread and all of its speculation and pipe dreams.

[KG]

That's a crumby return by Murray imo...

[KinCroz]

I wouldn't want to upset Cryin' Bryan either. Just look at the potential trades that could be made at the trade deadline if Ottawa continues to implode.

Plus, the Pens have a bunch of RFA's who will be coming over the next few years. He can't make enemies who would go after Letang and Staal.

[mjg]

I don't care what Bryan Murray thinks about RFA's....Bottom line is Shero works for the Penguins. If Tampa is willing to give up a nice asset for their 3rd round pick back then Shero has the duty to make the deal...

If it makes the penguins better, the deal needs to be done...

Thinking long term, it might be in Shero's best interest to not piss off other GM's by enabling a RFA signing to move forward. By taking this stance, he could ensure some other GM's will respect him enough to not poach on our RFA's. I'm with Shero here. It's not like any of the rumored assets were that great anyway.

[JS©]

I really hope we don't add jokinen. He's not a first line guy and it will make ice time for quality 3rd-4th line players scarce.

Jokinen is one of the best Finnish players right now.

It's from almost 2 seasons ago, but it's probably one of my favorite goals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJbI-nITjIM

[Malkin0017]

St.Louis would be amazing in Ottawa

Lol. That's pretty good considering the article is about the Pens/Lightning. Unless he misread "Sens." That or he wants to move the Blues to the famed Canadian capital.

"Ive got the Blues!!!"

[FallenHero96]

I really hope we don't add jokinen. He's not a first line guy and it will make ice time for quality 3rd-4th line players scarce.

Jokinen is one of the best Finnish players right now.

It's from almost 2 seasons ago, but it's probably one of my favorite goals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJbI-nITjIM

Too bad everyone associates that move with Forsberg... Lemieux actually did it first in the all star game competition at the arena.

[JoseCuervo]

I really hope we don't add jokinen. He's not a first line guy and it will make ice time for quality 3rd-4th line players scarce.

Jokinen is one of the best Finnish players right now.

Man, bse, that doesn't say a whole lot about Finnish players then, does it?

maybe he means Olli

I hope so cause filppula is better right off the top of my head and I don't know many finnish players.

Have you seen Jokinen play? Very unimpressive. Decent shot and fast, but gets thrown around way too easily. Not top six quality either. We don't need a shootout specialist.