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Sens at Pens Grades

Postby Mad City Mike on Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:47 am

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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby newarenanow on Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:49 am

YES!

The grades are back!

BTW,

Thanks. :D
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby newarenanow on Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:52 am

I think Gologowski's grade it a little high.

He had a good game, but nothing great. If I was grading, I'd have him at a B.

I'm not ready to give up on Feditanko (sp??) or Satan at all. It is early, and they need to build a little chemistry. I know they aren't Hossa's caliber, but it even took Hossa a few games to click. I think it will happen.

PP definitely deserved a U and everything else is pretty close to what I would grade it as.

Good stuff.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby KG on Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:54 am

Horrible games, both sides were sloppy and had no flow...Glad it is over with...

Heatley rules...Too bad these games didn't count in fantasy leagues (yes I drafted him).
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby newarenanow on Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:56 am

KG wrote:Heatley rules...Too bad these games didn't count in fantasy leagues (yes I drafted him).


That sucks. Why didn't they count?
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby KG on Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:58 am

newarenanow wrote:
KG wrote:Heatley rules...Too bad these games didn't count in fantasy leagues (yes I drafted him).


That sucks. Why didn't they count?


CBSSportsline doesn't count any of the over seas games...Never understood that. So Heatley/Lundqvist/Spezza/Alfredsson etc. only get a maximum of 80 games worth of stats...bogus...
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby Gaucho on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:00 am

Goligoski an A? He gets a D from me. Ok, C- because of the goal.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby Pitts on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:08 am

KG wrote:Horrible games, both sides were sloppy and had no flow...Glad it is over with...

Heatley rules...Too bad these games didn't count in fantasy leagues (yes I drafted him).

They counted in all my leagues.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby Mad City Mike on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:11 am

I guess I gave GoGo an A because he was the only defenseman who looked the least bit able to move a puck around.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby newarenanow on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:11 am

Gaucho wrote:Goligoski an A? He gets a D from me. Ok, C- because of the goal.


I think a C- is a little low. I'm taking into consideration that he had what, a whole 3 games under his belt prior to this game.

I think he did well for being out there with very little nHL experience.

If you are comparing him to a veteran, then yeah, a C- is about right, but with his experience, I think he performed at about a B or B- level.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:11 am

As far as Ruutu being the icehole, well, i cant disagree, but I cant believe the pens let him do that without rearanging his face on his next shift. i'm sure there were a LOT of other hockey teams that watched that game. They will take note that you can abuse crosby and face no recourse. It's going to be a long season if that crud keeps on happening.

Also, I get alex auld an A for a good game.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby Troy Loney on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:12 am

Beelzebub: F


Who is this in reference to?
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby newarenanow on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:12 am

Mad City Mike wrote:I guess I gave GoGo an A because he was the only defenseman who looked the least bit able to move a puck around.


But the other Dmen sucked. Compared to them, yeah, he was an A. But if you grade him for his performance overall, an A was high.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby Pitts on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:14 am

Troy Loney wrote:
Beelzebub: F


Who is this in reference to?

Uh, Satan?
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby newarenanow on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:14 am

KennyTheKangaroo wrote:As far as Ruutu being the icehole, well, i cant disagree, but I cant believe the pens let him do that without rearanging his face on his next shift. i'm sure there were a LOT of other hockey teams that watched that game. They will take note that you can abuse crosby and face no recourse. It's going to be a long season if that crud keeps on happening.

Also, I get alex auld an A for a good game.



Agreed about Ruutu, and the Pens not sticking up for Crosby. I know it was only 1 game, and the season is still very, very young, but if this keeps up, then maybe people are right that we lost a lot of grit. Guys are stilling trying to feel out their roles, and a lot of guys are new, but you can't let this go unpunished.

When Cooke hit Alfredsson, Smith came right over and hit him. You can send a message w/o taking a penalty or starting a fight. Just go whack someone HARD.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby penny lane on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:20 am

Pitts wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:
Beelzebub: F


Who is this in reference to?

Uh, Satan?


~ he goes by so many names. :P

Tyler Kennedy's got some fire. I love that Sid is shooting often and when not expected.
Evgeni is looking big and nasty.

Mr. Domino(sykora) on any of these power plays, may be makes a difference. Big goalies, who don't play often, give the penguins problems always.

as Dorothy says, there's no place like home.
:wink:
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby newarenanow on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:24 am

MCM, are you doing grades from Saturday's game? Or did I miss it??
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby KG on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:26 am

newarenanow wrote:
KennyTheKangaroo wrote:As far as Ruutu being the icehole, well, i cant disagree, but I cant believe the pens let him do that without rearanging his face on his next shift. i'm sure there were a LOT of other hockey teams that watched that game. They will take note that you can abuse crosby and face no recourse. It's going to be a long season if that crud keeps on happening.

Also, I get alex auld an A for a good game.



Agreed about Ruutu, and the Pens not sticking up for Crosby. I know it was only 1 game, and the season is still very, very young, but if this keeps up, then maybe people are right that we lost a lot of grit. Guys are stilling trying to feel out their roles, and a lot of guys are new, but you can't let this go unpunished.

When Cooke hit Alfredsson, Smith came right over and hit him. You can send a message w/o taking a penalty or starting a fight. Just go whack someone HARD.


BGL! :wink:
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:36 am

newarenanow wrote:
KennyTheKangaroo wrote:As far as Ruutu being the icehole, well, i cant disagree, but I cant believe the pens let him do that without rearanging his face on his next shift. i'm sure there were a LOT of other hockey teams that watched that game. They will take note that you can abuse crosby and face no recourse. It's going to be a long season if that crud keeps on happening.

Also, I get alex auld an A for a good game.



Agreed about Ruutu, and the Pens not sticking up for Crosby. I know it was only 1 game, and the season is still very, very young, but if this keeps up, then maybe people are right that we lost a lot of grit. Guys are stilling trying to feel out their roles, and a lot of guys are new, but you can't let this go unpunished.

When Cooke hit Alfredsson, Smith came right over and hit him. You can send a message w/o taking a penalty or starting a fight. Just go whack someone HARD.


I hear ya, it's awfully early to start calling this team out for soffness, but its a trend that can't continue. Godard was on the ice during Ruutu's clowning around. I can't imagine ruutu trying to pull that stunt with BGL on the ice though. Nobody, not even ruutu, is that stupid.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby The Snapshot on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:36 am

I think you have to consider these two games almost an extension of the preseason. The ice was choppy and the rink decidedly smaller. The transition games for both teams were hurt by the little neutral zone. Our PP was hurt by the non-existent corners, which impact our play along the wall and it was also hurt by the inexperience of the point men.

The best sign to me was that Fleury appears to have started well, which was not the case last year as he struggled to find his game.

Goals are going to tougher to come by without Whitney and Gonchar, not only on the PP but at even strength as well. When Eaton, Scuderi and Gill are starting the transition/breakout your forwards have to work much harder and lower in the zone. Goligoski and Letang are going to have to get their confidence and be able to eat big minutes, or we will be nearly a goal a game lower than last year in terms of offensive production.

Let's get home, get the big guys scoring and gaining some swagger, and we will be fine. The first home stand needs to get Crosby, Fedotenko, Satan, Malkin, Staal and Sykora going - then we will score enough to win.

Let's also not lose sight of the fact that Ottawa can and will be a very good team if they get the type of goaltending that Auld gave them yesterday. The problem for them is, I don't see either one of their Goalies being able to do that consistently.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby shmenguin on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:40 am

KennyTheKangaroo wrote:As far as Ruutu being the icehole, well, i cant disagree, but I cant believe the pens let him do that without rearanging his face on his next shift.


message boards for 20 or so other teams have probably had this exact same post over the last 2 years.

you know why you don't re-arrange his face? because he takes a lot of stupid penalties. a lot more than he draws in fact. ruutu might be the least tactful pest in the league. it's better to let him do his crap and have him get sent to the box once a game for a useless penalty.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby Mad City Mike on Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:42 am

newarenanow wrote:MCM, are you doing grades from Saturday's game? Or did I miss it??


They are here. I forgot to post on here that I had done them. I was big-timing y'all :lol: .
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby PensBeerGeek on Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:06 am

Jarkko Ruutu..........how quickly the love dies!! :P

Edit: I was expecting him to play with a bit of a chip on his shoulder, to try to send a message that we messed up getting rid of him.
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby wallflower on Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:19 am

newarenanow wrote:
KennyTheKangaroo wrote:As far as Ruutu being the icehole, well, i cant disagree, but I cant believe the pens let him do that without rearanging his face on his next shift. i'm sure there were a LOT of other hockey teams that watched that game. They will take note that you can abuse crosby and face no recourse. It's going to be a long season if that crud keeps on happening.

Also, I get alex auld an A for a good game.



Agreed about Ruutu, and the Pens not sticking up for Crosby. I know it was only 1 game, and the season is still very, very young, but if this keeps up, then maybe people are right that we lost a lot of grit. Guys are stilling trying to feel out their roles, and a lot of guys are new, but you can't let this go unpunished.

IMO, the reason they didn't "stick up" for Crosby is because it was Ruutu. These guys all know how he works, and if anyone goes out and takes a penalty to pay the Sens back for what Ruutu was doing, Ruutu would've "won."

And I don't believe this team has lost it's grit or willingness to stand up for one another. Cooke hit Alfredsson specifically because of his hit on Talbot. He returned a clean hit with a clean hit. Going around, acting like Ruutu isn't going to do this team any good.

(I thought I might end up disliking Ruutu after the games but I don't. But he very much reminding me of his biggest short coming - the refs just don't ever give him the benefit of the doubt and he's usually on the short end of the stick. Dupuis slashed him pretty bad on Saturday and the refs didn't even blink an eye. The Sens can have his '2 minutes for being Ruutu' penalties.)
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Re: Sens at Pens Grades

Postby KG on Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:56 am

With a 1-14 power play, no Gonchar...Get ready for some Bryan Berard rumors...I would investigate it...dress 7 defenseman and let Berard be the power play specialist, remember Greg Hawgood? = )
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