So is it too early for? *revised 10-23*

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So is it too early for? *revised 10-23*

Postby TheTimeHasCome on Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:55 am

A little friendly competition

Player Team P
1 Alexander Semin WSH 10
2 Evgeni Malkin PIT 10
3 Thomas Vanek BUF 9
14 Sidney Crosby PIT 8
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby PensFanInDC on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:00 am

Malkin is on pace for 136 points and Crosby for 109. They will only get more productive during the season. If they stay healthy I can see Malkin putting up 150.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Nizzy on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:20 am

PensFanInDC wrote:putting up 150.


Easy there. The last person to put up 150 in a season was Mario in 1995-96. I think the only way that will be done is if we keep Crosby + Malkin on the same line. Its been a long time since anyone has hit 130 even. Malkin definitley has the talent to be number 1 in the league in scoring. If he was the true number 1 for all of last season maybe he ends up with more points then Ovechkin.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:04 am

PensFanInDC wrote:Malkin is on pace for 136 points and Crosby for 109. They will only get more productive during the season. If they stay healthy I can see Malkin putting up 150.



150??

Crosby will be around 130.
Malkin around 110.

Maybe...
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby DocEmrick on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:11 am

How the hell does Semin have 10 points?
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby mumbobob on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:23 am

DocEmrick wrote:How the hell does Semin have 10 points?


Everyone is keying on Ovechkin, and you're finally seeing the real talent of Semin against each team's second tier defensive coverage
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Member on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:27 am

I didn't even realize Malkin had that many points. Malkin for the Hart.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Gaucho on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:34 am

Well, Thomas Vanek is "on pace" for 115 goals.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby toby91_ca on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:56 am

Am I the only one that thinks Malkin rode Sidney's coattails a bit on Saturday?

Don't get me wrong, Malkin was great and part of Crosby's success on Saturday was due to him, but I just thought Crosby's 4pts were far more impressive (the way he got them) than Malkin's 4pts).
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:58 am

toby91_ca wrote:Am I the only one that thinks Malkin rode Sidney's coattails a bit on Saturday?

Don't get me wrong, Malkin was great and part of Crosby's success on Saturday was due to him, but I just thought Crosby's 4pts were far more impressive (the way he got them) than Malkin's 4pts).


Crosby was unbelievable...very noticeable. Malkin wasn't on the same play field...imo.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Why So Serious? on Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:04 pm

Kovy27 wrote:
toby91_ca wrote:Am I the only one that thinks Malkin rode Sidney's coattails a bit on Saturday?

Don't get me wrong, Malkin was great and part of Crosby's success on Saturday was due to him, but I just thought Crosby's 4pts were far more impressive (the way he got them) than Malkin's 4pts).


Crosby was unbelievable...very noticeable. Malkin wasn't on the same play field...imo.


Crosby was terrific. But to say Malkin wasn't on the same playing field? You're pushing it a bit there. Both played their best games of the year and both were very noticeable. And I hope to see the same things tonight against the B's.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:09 pm

I've stated that since the beginning. I saw it with my 2 own eyes on Saturday...and I still believe it.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby DrBoni on Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:26 pm

Thomas Holmstrom also has a .500 shooting percentage with 5 goals on 10 shots. That will look pretty good when Homstrom has 80 goals on 160 shots. :-)

Seriously, it's good to see those guys up there. It says something the expectations we have for them now when we're criticizing them. (of course the turnover, etc are what pushed it over the top.)
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby pensfannn on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:13 pm

Uh huh huh. Huh huh...

You said Semin...
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby KG on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:14 pm

With the current systems being played these days...Nobody is going to sniff 150 points...
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:15 pm

Crosby was clearly the best player on the ice on Saturday. Malkin played great, but Crosby showed why he is still looked at as the guy.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:23 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:Crosby was clearly the best player on the ice on Saturday. Malkin played great, but Crosby showed why he is still looked at as the guy.


Exactly.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Why So Serious? on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:27 pm

Kovy27 wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:Crosby was clearly the best player on the ice on Saturday. Malkin played great, but Crosby showed why he is still looked at as the guy.


Exactly.


I completely understand and respect that. However, to say that Malkin wasn't even on the same playing field as Crosby on Saturday is a preposterous comment. They were the two best on the ice on Saturday.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:35 pm

Why So Serious? wrote:I completely understand and respect that. However, to say that Malkin wasn't even on the same playing field as Crosby on Saturday is a preposterous comment. They were the two best on the ice on Saturday.


No it wasn't....Crosby's game was well above everyone elses. I'd say MAF was the 2nd best player on the ice...imo.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby DrBoni on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:40 pm

That's stupid. MAF was on the ice for 60 minutes. If you spread out the time and average out his awesomeness with Sid and Geno's then Fleury was clearly heads above the rest.

This debate is a little nuts...
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Digitalgypsy66 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:41 pm

Kovy27 wrote:
Why So Serious? wrote:I completely understand and respect that. However, to say that Malkin wasn't even on the same playing field as Crosby on Saturday is a preposterous comment. They were the two best on the ice on Saturday.


No it wasn't....Crosby's game was well above everyone elses. I'd say MAF was the 2nd best player on the ice...imo.

From my vantage point (Yahoo! stream), it looked like Sid hit his stride after he scored that goal. He seemed to get faster after that.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Why So Serious? on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:44 pm

Kovy27 wrote:
Why So Serious? wrote:I completely understand and respect that. However, to say that Malkin wasn't even on the same playing field as Crosby on Saturday is a preposterous comment. They were the two best on the ice on Saturday.


No it wasn't....Crosby's game was well above everyone elses. I'd say MAF was the 2nd best player on the ice...imo.


Who are you trying to kid? I've noticed in just about every Crosby-Malkin discussion, you always try to demean Malkin or Malkin's value to this team. I bet you would also trade Malkin for Ovechkin in a heartbeat.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:47 pm

And you wonder how we figured out that you were crzymike? This is the same hilarity that he would pull. No one is taking anything away from Malkin, but Crosby was clearly better and anyone who watched the game would agree if they weren't worried about offending you and getting into a meaningless argument.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Why So Serious? on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:51 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:And you wonder how we figured out that you were crzymike? This is the same hilarity that he would pull. No one is taking anything away from Malkin, but Crosby was clearly better and anyone who watched the game would agree if they weren't worried about offending you and getting into a meaningless argument.


You are completely free to think whatever you want buddy. I'm not just pointing out this incident in particular, I'm talking about all Malkin-Crosby debates in general. I'm not trying to take away from Crosby either, cause he played magnificent. But, that doesn't mean Malkin wasn't even on the same playing field. That's all I'm simply pointing out. They were both excellent, and I don't understand why people feel the need to demean the other when one, in their eyes, is playing better.
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Re: So is it too early for?

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:58 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:And you wonder how we figured out that you were crzymike? This is the same hilarity that he would pull. No one is taking anything away from Malkin, but Crosby was clearly better and anyone who watched the game would agree if they weren't worried about offending you and getting into a meaningless argument.


I find this funny. I said Crosby is well above the rest of the level of the rest of the NHL...

I also said that I would not trade Malkin for AO.
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