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Staal takes bad penalties

Postby Old Time Hockey on Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:37 pm

How come it seems that every time Staal takes a useless penalty the puck ends up in the back of the net? There was no need for Staal to hit that guy from behind when the guy from Phoenix did not even have the puck. Therrien needs to send Staal a message and bench him for the third period or put him on a 4th line. I have counted at least 4 times this season where Staal has taken a bad penalty. It is called discipline and he does not have any!
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:38 pm

Old Time Hockey wrote:How come it seems that every time Staal takes a useless penalty the puck ends up in the back of the net?


I guess he really is that valuable as a penalty killer.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby bhaw on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:23 am

In real time, that was a pretty weak call. Staal didn't put much umpf into it. Orpik's penalty was much dumber and needless IMO.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby DelPen on Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:08 am

Idoit40fans wrote:
Old Time Hockey wrote:How come it seems that every time Staal takes a useless penalty the puck ends up in the back of the net?


I guess he really is that valuable as a penalty killer.


Well the also scored at the end of a PP because Staal failed to clear two times on the boards 8 feet from the blueline. He has been absolutely worthless this year.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby Waffles on Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:12 am

This reminds me tons of a bad streak Geno had.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby Jim on Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:59 am

When you can't skate, pass or shoot... you take penalties.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby pensfan66 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:47 am

First off I don't like to throw anyone under the bus. The whole team looks like crap out there. Tha being said though, perhaps its time to give Jordan a night or two off. Have him observe from above, I've heard this can sometimes help out a player who is struggling and he obviously is in every area. Maybe a higher view of transitions, passes etc from a different level would help him visualize better. I don't know something needs to be done. Running out of ideas.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby farnham16 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:58 am

Staal is just not a good hockey player. He is dangerously close to becoming a bust. For a 2nd overall pick to not show any offensive upside is very concerning to me. He has no confidence and doesnt show any passion at all out there.

Trade him as soon as you can before other GMs realize he might not become all that good.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby KG on Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:06 pm

You would think that he would at least score a goal by accident by now...He hasn't scored a goal since March?
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby Samsdog on Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:48 pm

Sigh.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby Waffles on Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:49 pm

You cannot expect high goal totals from your best defensive forward.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:52 pm

KG wrote:You would think that he would at least score a goal by accident by now...He hasn't scored a goal since March?


Very late April actually.
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Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby The Current One on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:29 pm

Unless the NHL consists of four teams - the Pens, Rangers, Canes and soon-to-be the Coyotes, he could quite possibly be the biggest bust of all time for a #2 pick. Beyond the Rangers and Canes game, he's been invisible (except for the bonehead plays, turnovers, etc.). What the heck was Shero thinking when he drafted him? Hindsight is 20/20, but Toews and Kessel are way beyond him in turns of progression (and I would argue Backstrom as well) and if you were going to take a center (which Shero shouldn't have with Sid and Malkin already there), why not take someone who at least had scored in junior? I thought from day one that Shero should have taken Kessel to play wing with Sid, but alas, it wasn't to be. Now we're stuck with the 2008 version of Chris Wells - big body, and that's about it. Not physical, can't score goals, afraid to go to the front of the net, and slow as molasses. Yep, that's what a #2 pick should be in my book.

The only good thing about Staal? If Shero does resign him, it will be at a bargain basement price.
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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby KG on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:30 pm

Staal and a pick for Wolski and Svatos
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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby mac5155 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:32 pm

KG wrote:Staal and a pick for Wolski and Svatos


wake up RS!
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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby westside on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:40 pm

Someone please make it stop....
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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby Pitts on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:40 pm

If you don't want to beat a dead horse, then why are you? There needed to be one more Staal sucks thread?
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby farnham16 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:16 pm

Waffles wrote:You cannot expect high goal totals from your best defensive forward.


Hes not even our best defensive forward right now. And if Shero drafted him because he can be a great defensive forward, then thats a big mistake.
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Re: Staal takes bad penalties

Postby westside on Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:19 pm

Staal has been moved around a lot from Center to Wing, from 2nd to 3rd lines and has a huge amount of expectations on him for a 20 year old. I'm glad that we have him, and when he starts to play like we all know he can, I for one would be extremely disappointed if he's doing for another team because we got another rental sniper (even though Ilya would be here for a year and a half). And to give up Gogo or Tang with Staal would be insane, IMO.
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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby bill from turtle creek on Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:40 pm

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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby columbia on Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:41 pm

Pitts wrote:If you don't want to beat a dead horse, then why are you? There needed to be one more Staal sucks thread?


Not really a need for another one, but he does kind of suck this year.
It is most disappointing.
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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby spi on Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:50 pm

I am really not liking Staal's game at the moment but these posts are just retarded. The kid is going to be a dominant center just not soon enough for anyone on this board including me. And that is part of the problem, we need him to be a winger.

BTW he has better stats than I believe any of the other 4 drafted in the top 5 of his draft year. Saying he is the worst number 2 pick of all time is ridiculous.

I am not liking Staal's game but then again I am not liking ANY of the pens game right now except Fleury and Saborin. They all look like they dont care. #11 and the rest of the birds MUST STEP UP or do something to show why they finished 2 in the conference last year.
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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby Guinness on Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:13 pm

The Current One wrote:Unless the NHL consists of four teams - the Pens, Rangers, Canes and soon-to-be the Coyotes, he could quite possibly be the biggest bust of all time for a #2 pick.


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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby K2 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:16 pm

You know what's weird? The 4 teams you mentioned, Pens, Rags, Canes, Yotes, all have a Staal on their roster or in their system

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Re: Staal: Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:18 pm

Everyone is playing poor right now, and blaming it all on Staal isn't the solution. He's an easy scapegoat but the Pens just aren't playing very well.
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