czwalga wrote: Nizzy wrote:
Penspal wrote:It is my opinion too that +/- is not as accurate a measure as some other statistics. Its still a useful measure, but the degree to which it reflects individual play needs to be softened.
The whole lets kick dirt on Staal bandwagon needs to be summarized.
I look back over the post of negative posters of Jordan staal. I see people admitting to drinking and swearing during a game, and then coming on and posting about the game. No offiense to you, but other than getting whatever frustrations you have off your chest on your chosen whipping boy, your not making any sense.
The kid scored 29 goals as an 18 year old.
The kid was S T E L L A R in a defensive role in the SC run and Finals
He is a monster that will get better, you need to get off his back. Many players in this league go through slumps, even bad seasons. His brother Eric had a sub par season compared to his other seasons.
The fact is, there is still tremendous upside to Staal. The Pens have the luxury of being able to let him develop.
The team is winning,
penspal, I agree with you and love all that. I am a huge Jordan fan.
People need to stop hating.
Why do they need to stop hating, because you have a certain man crush for him? He's not going to fit on this team.
I've never been a huge fan, never believed the hype, whether i'm right or wrong he doesnt fit on this team either way.
Yes I do have a man crush for him. Same man crush I had for Malone. Home grown pens.
How is he not fit for this team? Because he isn't scoring 50 goals? Staal was a big part of the reason we made it to the cup last year with his solid defensive game. Just because he is a 2nd overall pick doesn't mean we should dump him. Sure Staal might be the first ever 2nd overall pick to be a 3rd line Franchise Center... but just because he isn't as good as a 2nd overall pick doesn't mean we should drop him.
You're right his hype got HUGE atfter his rookie season. Look dude, you CAN replace Jordan's talent overnight, but you can't just replace a BIG body defensive-style centerman like him overnight. He is just in a serious slump, he isn't going to be THIS bad for his whole career. He is 20 years old. I totally disagree about the "doesn't fit on this team" comment. I think he is EXACTLY what this team needs for it's 3rd line center. We have 2 players that will put up 100+ points. We can't afford Jordan if he goes over 45-50 points anyways.
Please stop complaing about Staal.
you like sucky 3rd liners don't you?