ZenPenguin wrote:Henry Hank wrote:I wouldn't say he's doing great. He's playing well down there, it seems, but he's far from dominating the league which really is what it would take to get him noticed, and maybe what should be expected if he's such a big deal. I don't think it's set in stone that he'd want out. He was 26 and still hadn't played in the NHL. The Pens took a chance on him. He's already made his NHL debut and surely will get another call-up at some point. If he chooses to stick it out for another year, you could just as easily argue that he'd want to stay with the team that actually gave him a chance.
I don't see what Dupuis has to do with anything. Who's to say Pesonen would even be as good as Dupuis? I don't think anyone is expecting Pesonen to play Dupuis' role as a checker/penalty killer. If Pesonen was a guy that's going to get whisked away by another team next summer and given an NHL spot, I doubt it would have taken him this long to get a chance in North America.
I don't understand why people think Dupuis is good in any way. He's on OK penalty killer, other than that, he's horrible.
ZenPenguin wrote:You do great in the AHL but aren't going to be called up.
Mongoose87 wrote:As a 3rd or 4th liner, Dupuis is great. As a first or second liner, Pesonen is an unknown and as a 3rd or 4th liner, he sucks. Therefore, Dupuis > Pesonen, until otherwise proven.
ZenPenguin wrote:Bob McKenzie wrote:ZenPenguin wrote:You do great in the AHL but aren't going to be called up.
But he hasn't played great in the AHL so this question is not warranted.
Dupuis hasn't been bad. Not sure what the issue with him is. He plays good positionally, good defense, good on the PK, and can play on any line. He fits the team well and knows his role.
Other than the fact that he can't make a pass, receive a pass, or do anything else, he's been playing well.
ZenPenguin wrote:Draftnik wrote:Mongoose87 wrote:As a 3rd or 4th liner, Dupuis is great. As a first or second liner, Pesonen is an unknown and as a 3rd or 4th liner, he sucks. Therefore, Dupuis > Pesonen, until otherwise proven.
Exactly. DuPuis has proven he can fill roles (PK, 3rd/4th line energy player) at the NHL level. Peso didn't convince the Pens brass that he had the goods during training camp and apparently hasn't overwhelmed them at the AHL level either.
Peso and DuPuis aren't mutually exclusive entities at the NHL level so I doubt Peso considers DuPuis an impediment to a potential NHL paycheck.
The fact DuPuis spent time on the 1st line the past few seasons proves the Pens are looking for guys that can fill that role and are open to giving guys a chance. There is no reason to think they would not give Peso a chance if he showed the necessary ability in camp.
OMG... I must remain calm... have you seen what Dupuis has done on the 1st line? NOTHING. If I could make NOTHING a 72 point font I would. HE HAS DONE NOTHING except make Sid frustrated. Of the top of your head, how many goals do you think he has a Penguin? 10? 20? 15? ... no.... 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not sure why you are all so in love with him. He's not good. You think having him next year vs. Pesonen is smart from a long-term standpoint?
Man, years ago, I spent a year trying to convince the ESPN message board that Aubin was a horrible goalie. I guess I'll just you guys figure Dupuis out for yourselves.
Well, no one is proven until they play. Maybe they should have stuck Malkin and Crosby in the AHL, they weren't proven. Dupuis is terrible. How can you say he's better than Pesonen when Pesonen hasn't been given a chance? If it's even possible to be worse than Dupuis I'll be surprised.
Henry Hank wrote:People are saying Dupuis is a good third/fourth liner and the response is that he's terrible because he wasn't good on the first line. Hmm....
emptyfriend wrote:Pesonen = Jiri Dopita.
WRITE IT DOWN.