Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Henry Hank on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:34 pm

I think it'd be a bigger deal if they had better options. Letang seems to have been figured out. Sykora and Satan are pretty good but not definites. Neither Malkin nor Crosby has ever really been good at them. I liked that they used Goligoski - skilled defensemen tend to do pretty well in these (see: Zidlicky scoring the winner). We were spoiled when they had Christensen. He was as close to automatic as you could probably get.
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:37 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
Why So Serious? wrote:
Easton wrote:For everyone calling on Malkin to go in the Shootout - he's no better than Crosby at them. His stats are actually worse.


All I know is that he has been better than Crosby THIS YEAR.


Malkin = 4/13 = .31
Crosby = 9/31? = .29

So technically he is better, but this year he is 1 of 2, he should be given more chances.

And my original post at the top of this page was in regards to actually shooting. I don't mind him being in there, but why does he shoot 4/5 times? With his puck handling skills, he should be making a move.



I lied, I heard Gove wrong on the post game, or he said it wrong. Malkin is 4/19 for .21. Still better this year.
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:38 pm

Have the WBS Pens been in many shoot-outs? Who are their best performers?
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:39 pm

Kicksave wrote:Have the WBS Pens been in many shoot-outs? Who are their best performers?


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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby netwolf on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:40 pm

Kicksave wrote:Have the WBS Pens been in many shoot-outs? Who are their best performers?

I'm hoping it's Janne Pesonen. :twisted:
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:42 pm

netwolf wrote:
Kicksave wrote:Have the WBS Pens been in many shoot-outs? Who are their best performers?

I'm hoping it's Janne Pesonen. :twisted:


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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby 71 on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:47 pm

It may be time to rethink the shootout participants. Sid and Geno are both extremely skilled but they're awful in the shootout 9 for 31 29.0% and 4 for 19 21.1% respectively.

IMO it should go:
1. Sykora (the most consistent performer we've had other than EC 10 for 23 for his career 43.5%)
2. Letang (not producing yet but his hands and deking ability is too good to bench and he's 5 for 11 for his career 45.5%)
3. Satan (he gives the Pens they're best chance in the final spot, 13 of 31 for his career 41.9%)
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:48 pm

Kicksave wrote:Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that which I desire.


Thank you for that
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby netwolf on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:59 pm

According to my highly unscientific research, Wilkes-Barre has only been involved in one shootout so far this season.

Jeff Taffe, Luca Caputi, Dustin Jeffrey and Ryan Stone all shot once and did not score.

Janne Pesonen shot twice and scored once. He's clicking at 50%. Call him up now! :lol:
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby 71 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:03 am

netwolf wrote:According to my highly unscientific research, Wilkes-Barre has only been involved in one shootout so far this season.

Jeff Taffe, Luca Caputi, Dustin Jeffrey and Ryan Stone all shot once and did not score.

Janne Pesonen shot twice and scored once. He's clicking at 50%. Call him up now! :lol:


Last year Taffe was 5 for 6 if that does it for you?
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Rohit on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:07 am

I dont think its that big a deal. how many shootout points have we lost specifically because crosby was in the lineup. it cant amount to very many. right now we are still over 500 in the shootout so its not making that big a difference in the point differential and since shootouts arent implemented in the playoffs, its not something im too worried about.

Yes each point counts towards the playoffs, but the way i see it, any team that needs shootout points to get into the playoffs isnt a cup caliber team anyways. Maybe it would help the penguins get a better spot in the playoff bracket but thats too unpredictable anyways. The shootout really amounts to nothing more than fun for the fan.
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby netwolf on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:07 am

Last year is history. I'm all about the now. :D

Where did you find AHL shootout stats for last year? I took a quick look on the AHL site, but I did not see shootout stats there. Since the season is relatively young, I decided to just go through the schedule, find the games that went to a shootout and go through the game sheets.
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby 71 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:11 am

netwolf wrote:Last year is history. I'm all about the now. :D

Where did you find AHL shootout stats for last year? I took a quick look on the AHL site, but I did not see shootout stats there. Since the season is relatively young, I decided to just go through the schedule, find the games that went to a shootout and go through the game sheets.


I know, I know. I have to stop living in the past. :D

I did the same thing as you but I clicked on the link for the 07-08 schedule and went through the box scores. It was shockingly much more fun than the game tonight!
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Pitts on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:18 am

I think MT should really send the opposing goalie for a loop and send out Orpik, Goddard and Gill. No stopping that crew!
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby wallflower on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:24 am

Pitts wrote:I think MT should really send the opposing goalie for a loop and send out Orpik, Goddard and Gill. No stopping that crew!

Dave Molinari is one step ahead of you. http://post-gazette.com/pg/08321/928460-61.stm :D
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Pitts on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:26 am

wallflower wrote:
Pitts wrote:I think MT should really send the opposing goalie for a loop and send out Orpik, Goddard and Gill. No stopping that crew!

Dave Molinari is one step ahead of you. http://post-gazette.com/pg/08321/928460-61.stm :D

That is too funny. I never saw that piece!
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Bob McKenzie on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:32 am

Crosby looks frustrated out there.

He doesn't shoot the puck when he should and he's too over agressive in going into the zone when he shouldn't be. There were at least 2 or 3 times tonight where he passed the puck instead of firing it at Backstrom for a good scoring chance, and the puck went to no where.

When you play against the Wild, throw the puck to the net, and crash it. Forget this pretty pass, nice set up crap they were doing all night.

And why in the hell wasn't Letang out there in the shoot out?
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby joker10277 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:49 am

Pitts wrote:
wallflower wrote:
Pitts wrote:I think MT should really send the opposing goalie for a loop and send out Orpik, Goddard and Gill. No stopping that crew!

Dave Molinari is one step ahead of you. http://post-gazette.com/pg/08321/928460-61.stm :D

That is too funny. I never saw that piece!


"You have to work on it," Scuderi said. "You never know when you're going to be the 20th guy called. I have that shootout stick ready if I get my number called."
That made me LOL.............Hysterical.......... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby meecrofilm on Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:02 am

joker10277 wrote:"You have to work on it," Scuderi said. "You never know when you're going to be the 20th guy called. I have that shootout stick ready if I get my number called."
That made me LOL.............Hysterical.......... :lol: :lol:


He needs to be called next SO. Hey, didn't he put up good offensive numbers in college. The ability's there. Do it HCMT. haha.

Ok, maybe like, near the end of the season, if Pens have the conference locked up or something.

OH, I just realized why Sid went 5-hole. That's his powder-blue move :lol:
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Gage18 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:26 am

Everytime Crosby dekes...he scores...everytime he shoots he either misses or its a soff shot! I don't understand his thought process...out of those 9 times he actually converted in the shootout I would be willing to bet 95% of them were when he deked...
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby André on Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:34 am

Gage18 wrote:Everytime Crosby dekes...he scores...everytime he shoots he either misses or its a soff shot! I don't understand his thought process...out of those 9 times he actually converted in the shootout I would be willing to bet 95% of them were when he deked...


95% out of 9 is an impressive stat :D

And you guys say the league isn't cutting Sid extra slack...how do you explain the partial credit he must've been give on at least one shootout attempt? =)
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Kovy27 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:37 am

I think we should trade for Erik Christensen.
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Gaucho on Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:40 am

Kovy27 wrote:I think we should trade for Erik Christensen.


I was thinking the same. Our 3-2 record in shootouts this season will eventually come back to haunt us. Shero has to act before it is too late. I urge him to panic NOW.
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Kovy27 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:47 am

Gaucho gets it. LOL

My other response was going to be:

It's Sid's team and he'll do what he wants.
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Re: Why, Why does #87 have to shoot in every shootout?

Postby Waffles on Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:01 am

For what it's worth, it's not just Sid. The majority of the last-man shooters focus on just getting it on goal in score-to-tie situations. Maybe he would try something if he was higher in the order, but when the team is counting on you to tie it, you don't want to look like a fool attempting some rediculous move. Just something I've noticed since the post-lockout season.
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