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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby purelebo84 on Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:17 pm

WWGRD wrote:Third man in penalty = joke

No, it's a good rule.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby WWGRD on Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:17 am

purelebo84 wrote:
WWGRD wrote:Third man in penalty = joke

No, it's a good rule.


No it isn't. Same with the instigator penalty. It gives guys like Ruutu, Ott, and Avery (just to name a few) the freedom to do their dirty hits without having to answer the bell when someone goes to fight them.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Idoit40fans on Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:19 am

WWGRD wrote:
purelebo84 wrote:
WWGRD wrote:Third man in penalty = joke

No, it's a good rule.


No it isn't. Same with the instigator penalty. It gives guys like Ruutu, Ott, and Avery (just to name a few) the freedom to do their dirty hits without having to answer the bell when someone goes to fight them.


and thats a bad thing?
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby WWGRD on Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:24 am

Me, personally I liked it when their wasn't an instigator penalty.

I don't like it when someone like Downie tries to murder someone, and then stands there because he knows he doesn't have to fight.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Idoit40fans on Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:37 am

WWGRD wrote:Me, personally I liked it when their wasn't an instigator penalty.

I don't like it when someone like Downie tries to murder someone, and then stands there because he knows he doesn't have to fight.


Yeah, I was just being an idoit. Both rules are horrible.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Pens4Life on Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:26 am

Give Boucher some time.. Overall he is an upgrade over Sydor,no doubt.. He is blocking more shots than Eaton and thats suprising for me for a d-man who is offensive minded..
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby midd on Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:48 am

Kris Letang is the second coming of Paul Coffey, not Boucher......
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Three Stars on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:16 am

If Boucher continues to screw up, we get to refer to him as a "Bouchbag".

There's no downside here.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Kovy27 on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:59 am

Holy overreaction batman. WHAAAAAAAAAA
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby canaan on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:19 am

Three Stars wrote:we get to refer to him as a "Bouchbag".


i support this poster.

***stars '12!
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby KG on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:38 am

Boucher will be fine. As long as MT doesn't think we got the Boucher in his prime...
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Three Stars on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:46 am

Canaan will then start a website.

Puck chicks and Bouchbag.

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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby bhaw on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:48 am

Three Stars wrote:Canaan will then start a website.

Puck chicks and Bouchbag.

Image


LOL... why is Boucher wearing his jersey out in a Dallas mall?
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby WWGRD on Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:25 pm

Looks like some kind of signing or meet and greet due to the cop staring the background
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Bob McKenzie on Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:21 pm

bhaw wrote:
Three Stars wrote:Canaan will then start a website.

Puck chicks and Bouchbag.

Image


LOL... why is Boucher wearing his jersey out in a Dallas mall?


He's dedicated :D
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby bhaw on Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:28 pm

WWGRD wrote:Looks like some kind of signing or meet and greet due to the cop staring the background


It's funnier to think he wears his jersey around in public so girls will take pictures with him. I'm sticking with that story, you can have your "meet and greet" hypothesis.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby WWGRD on Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:43 pm

bhaw wrote:
WWGRD wrote:Looks like some kind of signing or meet and greet due to the cop staring the background


It's funnier to think he wears his jersey around in public so girls will take pictures with him. I'm sticking with that story, you can have your "meet and greet" hypothesis.


Haha, you're right. I like your theory.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby LeopardLetang on Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:14 pm

that theory gives the presence of the cop a possibly different slant.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby BeerLeague6 on Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:59 pm

Hal Gill looked pretty bad hist first few games as a Pen as well. Give the guy a few weeks to adjust, and he'll be fine. Sometimes it's less about the individual and more about the D pairings, getting used to the goalie and how he plays the puck, etc. MT won't know whether or not he's valuable on the PP unless he's given time there. If it doesn't work out, I'm sure he'll be pulled off the PP, or even off the ice if need be.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby burghsportsguys on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:27 pm

KG wrote:Boucher will be fine. As long as MT doesn't think we got the Boucher in his prime...


That's really all I'm saying.... through 3 games, they're using this guy like they just traded for a great offensive d-man in his prime. They may actually want him practicing with the PP before having him out there in OT on the PP in his first game in a Pens uniform.

In fact, I completely agree that he's a better player than Sydor. I just don't think he's nearly as good as his clutch situation playing tiem would seem to indicate. At least with Sydor, we realized what he was - a decent veteran 7th d-man that could mop up on PP2.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:37 am

Sydor was playing well when he was traded. Boucher isn't likely to play much if at all better than Sydor was when he was in, the only difference is that Therrien is actually using him.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby Lesky on Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:24 pm

Is it not vital that the 2 pointman can shoot the puck?

Goligoski have not delivered one slapshot.......

Malkin and Boucher should take the points.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby netwolf on Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:34 pm

A point man doesn't have to fire slapshots all day long. As long as he's getting shots to the net, what difference does it make how they were taken?

By the way, Alex Gologoski has 4 goals on 33 shots in 19 games, giving him a shooting percentage of 12.1%. He ranks 1st on the team among defensemen in each of those stats.
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby shane613 on Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:14 pm

i haven't been too impressed with him....i hope that he proves his worth to the team soon, but i'm suyre it's just a matter of getting used to his new team mates...whitney should be back soon right? (i can't believe i'm saying that!)
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Re: The Difference Between Boucher and Sydor...

Postby pcm on Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:09 am

Boucher is Gonchar's replacement. Therrien is using him exactly how he used Sarge. Giving Gonchar's usual form of taking the first half of the season to get into shape (either because he takes a long time to get into the rhythm or he has been on long playoff runs and is saving his intensity for the second half (see Fedetenko, Ruslan)), Shero must be thinking that if the former is true then Boucher will be his replacement going into the playoffs until Gonch rounds back into shape. If the latter is the case, then this team is going to have the best puck possession defense in the league going into April.

Remember how long it took Gonchar to get used to this team? Defensemen like Boucher (and Gonchar) reach their primes in their mid-30s. They play a smart, puck-possesion, defensive positioning game. Gonchar had a career year last year. If he can fully recover from this injury and return to form for the playoffs, I think he will continue to get better. Boucher is still returning to form from his injury, but before that, he was an all-star. Give him some time and the guy will win you all over.
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