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Re: good article from Mark Madden on Pens wing situation

Postby Why So Serious? on Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:21 pm

purelebo84 wrote:
DelPen wrote:Looking ahead to next year, if Staal can be moved to wing and is succesful we could see this:

Staal-Crosby-Kennedy
Dupuis-Malkin-Sykora
Cooke-Talbot-Wallace
Caputi-Zigomanis-Godard

Gonchar-Orpik
Letang-Whitney
Goligoski-Eaton

Fleury-Curry

Should be a very cap freindly roster that will allow for a lot of movement during the season and at the deadline in 2010.

Or, the Penguins could sign Johan Franzen.

Wing issues = solved.


That would be awesome. How much do you think we can get him for?
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Re: good article from Mark Madden on Pens wing situation

Postby Pens4Life on Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:19 pm

Why So Serious? wrote:
purelebo84 wrote:
DelPen wrote:Looking ahead to next year, if Staal can be moved to wing and is succesful we could see this:

Staal-Crosby-Kennedy
Dupuis-Malkin-Sykora
Cooke-Talbot-Wallace
Caputi-Zigomanis-Godard

Gonchar-Orpik
Letang-Whitney
Goligoski-Eaton

Fleury-Curry

Should be a very cap freindly roster that will allow for a lot of movement during the season and at the deadline in 2010.

Or, the Penguins could sign Johan Franzen.

Wing issues = solved.


That would be awesome. How much do you think we can get him for?


I dont think he will be available under 3.5-4 mills..

But i rather see Caputi as 3rd line LW and Wallace as 4th liner
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Re: good article from Mark Madden on Pens wing situation

Postby Doogs on Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:25 pm

I dont think he will be available under 3.5-4 mills..

But i rather see Caputi as 3rd line LW and Wallace as 4th liner[/quote]


There is no way Franzen takes less that Malone got. He IS the guy Malone wants to be.
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Re: good article from Mark Madden on Pens wing situation

Postby littlemoonboot on Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:50 pm

I would be surprised if Franzen didn't stay with Detroit.
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Re: good article from Mark Madden on Pens wing situation

Postby Daniel on Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:21 pm

kovyman1127 wrote:
Don't you think the winger for Crosby will make at least as much as Staal?


It's all about what you value more. Would you trade Hossa for Staal if you could fit Hossa under our cap (even though you pay him more) and have a less expensive player play a 3rd line center position which are more readily available than a scoring winger?

Hell yes!!!


Thats the key, do you honestly think the Pens can fit Hossa under the cap? Right now, the Pens are about $150K under the cap. That means the Pens would have to get rid of probably $10 million to fit Hossa and replacements under the cap.

Lets say Staal at $3 mil, you lose about $5 mil by losing Gil and Boucher. So, you end up with Gonchar, Whitney, Eaton, Orpik, Goligoski and Letang with no depth at defense. You gain Hossa's scoring, but have to replace Staal as a third line center. You could do that with Talbot, but again you lose some depth.

It is doable, but at the cost of a lot of depth. All of a sudden, these injuries that we are seeing would be catastrophic without the depth you could have had without Hossa.

I am not against trading Staal at all, but I don't want to lose a lot of depth to do it. IF the Pens can get someone about Staals age (maybe a few years older, but not much more) who can play the wing better than Staal can, then I am all for it. However, adding another $7 mil plus salary replacing Staal removes a lot of the depth that is keeping the Pens afloat this season.

The Pens biggest weakness, as I can see, is the board work in the offensive zone. The cycling that they were so good at last season. I couldn't tell you who they ought to get, but I don't think they should be getting a huge contract in return.
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Re: good article from Mark Madden on Pens wing situation

Postby 2headedmonster8771 on Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:43 pm

A winger is a must.

You have to give to get. Talbot is more than a good enough replacement for Staal...at this point IMO he IS better than Staal. And dont forget about Ziggy, a great 4th line center. With Crosby-Malkin-Talbot-Ziggy were set at center.

We'd have to trade Whitney too possibly. Dont forget that Lovejoy looked pretty decent in his time here. You also forgot Scuderi.
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Re: good article from Mark Madden on Pens wing situation

Postby KG on Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:43 pm

Maybe Goligoski is the winger we need? puke...
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