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Idoit40fans wrote:Me.
Because you think the team sucks doesn't mean you're "off the bandwagon." True fans can be realistic, too. Bandwagoners are the ones who don't care about the team when they're losing. I don't understand why there is so much confusion here regarding this issue.
The Pens are borderline putrid this year. I'll still watch them, though. But if feeling that way takes me off the bandwagon, that's fine. I have no interest in delusion.
Va Beach Pens Fan wrote:What some call 'hating' I call constructive criticism....
bhaw wrote:Va Beach Pens Fan wrote:What some call 'hating' I call constructive criticism....
"fire yeo" "fire mt" "staal sucks" "scrap the team and rebuild, we suck"
those are not constructive criticism. The author was not saying constructive criticism is not ok. THere is a big difference between constructive criticism and what the author was referring to. Most people can tell the difference. It's just as asinine to paint this guy as saying you have to think your team is great to be a fan as it would be if he said that all criticism is "hating."
The current Penguins team has spoiled many fans. Very few people who "criticize" the team take into account that teams that constantly dominate the standings have been building their roster for over a decade. The Pens have had about 4 years.
Idoit40fans wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vONgc3FAQfU
I guess when you're 24, and your "early Pens memories" are of them sucking in the early 2000s (by the way, didn't they lose in the ECFs in the early 00s), you kind of don't have a sense of what LONG-TIME Pens fans have been through. And my guess is that most of the, how you say, "haters" are actually those that have been through a lot more than that blogger. Maybe you had to live through things like a 42-game winless streak at the Spectrum to really appreciate the ups and downs of NHL fandom.
Most of the bandwagon jumpers don't even know enough about the team to even make a reasonable critique.
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