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Here is why this whole thing really stinks.

Postby Gunnerfan on Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:00 pm

What state would not just put the slots licenses up to the highest bidder? I’m not sure, but I would venture a guess by saying that most governments would just say “here are 20 odd slots license, the top 20 get the right to have slots.â€￾ Wouldn’t that eliminate the “fixâ€￾ factor? But not in PA, we have to so it in a way that no other state has. The way that the state has decided the awarding of the slots licenses should be your first clue that some sort of fix is in. No one in there right mind would come up with this schematic.

Now Roddy and others now have the right to sell slots systems as a middle man! What the hell is this? Why not purchase directly from the manufacturer like the REST OF THE GAMING WORLD! This is unprecedented and unbelievable.
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Re: Here is why this whole thing really stinks.

Postby HomerPenguin on Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:03 pm

Gunnerfan wrote:What state would not just put the slots licenses up to the highest bidder? I’m not sure, but I would venture a guess by saying that most governments would just say “here are 20 odd slots license, the top 20 get the right to have slots.â€￾ Wouldn’t that eliminate the “fixâ€￾ factor? But not in PA, we have to so it in a way that no other state has. The way that the state has decided the awarding of the slots licenses should be your first clue that some sort of fix is in. No one in there right mind would come up with this schematic.

Now Roddy and others now have the right to sell slots systems as a middle man! What the hell is this? Why not purchase directly from the manufacturer like the REST OF THE GAMING WORLD! This is unprecedented and unbelievable.


In principle, the idea that you would award licenses based on potential community impact, and not just to the highest bidder, seems like a worthy intention. In practice, you're right, it just opens the floodgates for corruption or at least the APPEARANCE of corruption (which can be just as bad). The middle-man setup for the gaming equipment, on the other hand, just seems like straight graft without any redeeming potential.
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Postby Crash on Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:54 am

Corruption at it's finest. And Rendell is the ring leader.

If the Pens leave? I hope Harrah's screws the city of Pittsburgh over so bad it's not even funny.
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Re: Here is why this whole thing really stinks.

Postby BigNasty on Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:58 am

Gunnerfan wrote:What state would not just put the slots licenses up to the highest bidder?


PA. Why? Because Harrahs and that pig Rendell's buddies wouldn't be the highest bidder.

Do some research folks.... These licenses are ALWAYS sold to the highest bidder. But not in good ol' PA, where the OH Mafia has Rendell by the c*&nt hairs!

Paging Mickey Monus, Mr. Mickey Monus.
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Re: Here is why this whole thing really stinks.

Postby Kicksave on Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:59 am

BigNasty wrote:
Gunnerfan wrote:What state would not just put the slots licenses up to the highest bidder?


PA. Why? Because Harrahs and that pig Rendell's buddies wouldn't be the highest bidder.

Do some research folks.... These licenses are ALWAYS sold to the highest bidder. But not in good ol' PA, where the OH Mafia has Rendell by the c*&nt hairs!

Paging Mickey Monus, Mr. Mickey Monus.


I hate to deter this away from the topic, but must you always type in bold and blue?
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Postby Stoosh on Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:15 am

Nice Mickey Monus reference!!
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Postby owtahear on Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:33 am

I can tell yinz some stories.

Gimme some time, but I know personally who one of the people Rendell is appointing as some gaming commissioner.

I also can tell you he and his brother were so involved in some Vegas/Indian reservation casino scam, that there have been death threats against them, and maybe are protected by the mafia. It is so bad, I know the people who live next door are scared.

This is the type of crap that needs "owted". When I get all the specifics, I will e-mail John Steigerwald the stuff, cause I know at least he has the balls to spill these beans.

I don't care if you are a Dem or Rep, this Democratic Party running this state now might as well be the Soprano's. And I am 100% serious.
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Postby SportsFan on Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:50 am

Alot of people dont realize we have a Republican house and a Democratic gov. Nothing gets done either way.

But again, with the clown that we had before our interm gov, the state was running so good. Penn Dot lost how much money?
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Postby Zscout on Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:06 am

The whole Pittsburgh arena problem was a result of Tommy Ridge freezing out the burgh out when he was in office. Ridge promised Lemieux a new arena - and never came through. Ridge held up approved state funds that prevented the local government from going forward with an arena project. The local government was broke and had no way to get this off the ground.
Every time I see people claiming that the slots are the solution - they overlook that slots were approved to suplement horse racing and property tax relief, not civic projects. It is a joke to think that the slots are the answer to keeping the Penguins in Pittsburgh.
A large percentage of the value of the Penguins is based in the simple fact that it will become a free agent franchise. Pittsburgh will have to compete against several cities to keep the Penguins.
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Postby Draftnik on Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:13 am

Zscout wrote:The whole Pittsburgh arena problem was a result of Tommy Ridge freezing out the burgh out when he was in office. Ridge promised Lemieux a new arena - and never came through. Ridge held up approved state funds that prevented the local government from going forward with an arena project. The local government was broke and had no way to get this off the ground.
Every time I see people claiming that the slots are the solution - they overlook that slots were approved to suplement horse racing and property tax relief, not civic projects. It is a joke to think that the slots are the answer to keeping the Penguins in Pittsburgh.
A large percentage of the value of the Penguins is based in the simple fact that it will become a free agent franchise. Pittsburgh will have to compete against several cities to keep the Penguins.


Where is the arena deal that can offer the Pens 100% of all revenues for all hockey and non-hockey events?
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Re: Here is why this whole thing really stinks.

Postby BigNasty on Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:05 pm

Kicksave wrote:I hate to deter this away from the topic, but must you always type in bold and blue?


How about w/o the bold? :D
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Re: Here is why this whole thing really stinks.

Postby Kicksave on Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:12 pm

BigNasty wrote:
Kicksave wrote:I hate to deter this away from the topic, but must you always type in bold and blue?


How about w/o the bold? :D



Its a little less attention-wh*reish....but a step in the right direction.
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Postby Steve Latin on Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:58 pm

owtahear wrote:I can tell yinz some stories.

Gimme some time, but I know personally who one of the people Rendell is appointing as some gaming commissioner.

I also can tell you he and his brother were so involved in some Vegas/Indian reservation casino scam, that there have been death threats against them, and maybe are protected by the mafia. It is so bad, I know the people who live next door are scared.

This is the type of crap that needs "owted". When I get all the specifics, I will e-mail John Steigerwald the stuff, cause I know at least he has the balls to spill these beans.

I don't care if you are a Dem or Rep, this Democratic Party running this state now might as well be the Soprano's. And I am 100% serious.


Everyone on the gaming commission is a scumbag. I don't think any of them have a clean record.
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Re: Here is why this whole thing really stinks.

Postby penny lane on Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:16 pm

Gunnerfan wrote:What state would not just put the slots licenses up to the highest bidder? I’m not sure, but I would venture a guess by saying that most governments would just say “here are 20 odd slots license, the top 20 get the right to have slots.â€￾ Wouldn’t that eliminate the “fixâ€￾ factor? But not in PA, we have to so it in a way that no other state has. The way that the state has decided the awarding of the slots licenses should be your first clue that some sort of fix is in. No one in there right mind would come up with this schematic.

Now Roddy and others now have the right to sell slots systems as a middle man! What the hell is this? Why not purchase directly from the manufacturer like the REST OF THE GAMING WORLD! This is unprecedented and unbelievable.


besides Jim Roddy, former and 1st CountyEx of Allegheny,
Mark Singel former Lt. Governor , state senator , and now lobbyist is also
to be middle level in the slots. :twisted: PA govt reeks ... doesn't matter
the party.
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