pfim wrote: bse wrote:
pfim wrote:McCabe is having a good offensive half-season, but defensively he isn't in the class of a Pronger, Chara, Lidstrom etc.
Defensively he is having just as good season as LidstrÃƒÂ¶m or Pronger. Redden and Chara, as they are playing for the Senators, have better +/- than pretty much anyone.
So why not Lubomir Visnovsky? If +/- was the best way to measure a defenseman defensively, Michal Roszival would be considered a great defensive defenseman. If you're saying that McCabe is better defensively than Lidstrom or Pronger, I disagree completely, this season, last season, whenever.
You are missing a lot of things pfim. We aren't choosing best defensive defenseman as far as talent goes. We aren't choosing best offensive defenseman, in pure skill, talent, either. When Norris Trophy winner is voted, it is purely based on one season. It doesn't matter if Rob Blake has all the skill in the world at all ends, if he isn't having a great season, he won't win the award. Period.
Heck, Rozsival is likely a very bad defenseman, yet he's having a great season. Scott Hannan is a very good defensive defenseman, and he's having a terrible season. See the difference? If they were against each other, based on this season Rozy would win hands down.
At the moment, Bryan McCabe is having an excellent season. I'm not saying he will win it or even finish top-5, but he's having a great season. I could care less if he has zero talent, hockey sense or speed, it doesn't matter, since he's having a good season and that award is based on player's play during this season.