OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby topshelf on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:46 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:Yea, Ulfie, Stevens, Tocchet.

The 90's Pens we're all saints. lol.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby NeddieVedder on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:46 pm

You guys know he was just repping CM Punk, right
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby Avyran on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:47 pm

RxBandit66 wrote:
Chefpatrick871 wrote:Really. The Gilles taunt was on a completely different level. Can we stop comparing the two. Asham had a fight with an unfortunate end for snoopy, this wasnt premeditated revenge followed with in the face taunting.



I guess I'm from a different generation of Pens' fans. It's not so much that Asham was "wrong" but I totally understand why Caps fans would be upset.

Mario or Ronnie Francis would not have made gestures while a player lay injured on the ice. I just think Penguins hockey is a class above that type of stuff. Bottom line.

Mario or Francis would also not have tried to fight Beagle for what he did. It's a different game, with different styles.

At the same time, of course you have to understand why the Caps fans are upset. I'd despise it if someone knocked out Vitale or... Vitale (I can't think of anyone else on the Pens right now that's similar) and then did that. It was a rivalry game, though, and Asham was protecting Letang. Pretty sure all sides can be understood.

The key is that Asham said it was wrong and apologized. He also did not see how badly Beagle was injured until after the gesture; the stick-tapping while in the box is the reverse of that.

And along a different line, is Beagle fighting with his visor on still considered low / classless, or is that no longer in effect due to the fact that a lot more players wear visors now? One of the reasons that Asham had to constantly aim for the jaw was because of the visor in the first place.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby marek on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:48 pm

marek wrote:All I know is I can't wait to outbid everyone for beagle blood-ridden jersey!

Lol


and oh yeah to make it even better I may have asham autograph it!!!
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby RxBandit66 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:48 pm

topshelf wrote:
RxBandit66 wrote:
Chefpatrick871 wrote:Really. The Gilles taunt was on a completely different level. Can we stop comparing the two. Asham had a fight with an unfortunate end for snoopy, this wasnt premeditated revenge followed with in the face taunting.



I guess I'm from a different generation of Pens' fans. It's not so much that Asham was "wrong" but I totally understand why Caps fans would be upset.

Mario or Ronnie Francis would not have made gestures while a player lay injured on the ice. I just think Penguins hockey is a class above that type of stuff. Bottom line.



Ulfie would have just blown own someone's knee.

I'm from the same generation as you, so don't compare Asham to Mario.


OK. Jay Caufield or Randy Cunneyworth would not have made that type of gesture. Fighting is part of hockey, taunging is not, and Shanahan will agree with me, as does the NFL. If a pitcher is taunted in MLB they throw a fastball at the guy the next time. It violates a code the players have. This is not WWF.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby Tico Rick on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:48 pm

NeddieVedder wrote:You guys know he was just repping CM Punk, right
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Didn't know that. Awesome.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby columbia on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:48 pm

Geezer wrote:
mac5155 wrote:so wait, there's a disagreement here. ah. like that never happens. can we argue about it?

now i get why I spend 90% of my time in NHR

No arguments in NHR :roll:



Geezer is always trying to convince me how awesome Joe Biden is. :pop:
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby guiner on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:49 pm

Just finished way late via DVR...

If the Pens keep playing like this, they are fine. Great effort, superior system and talent. Johnson was just average and Vokoun was outstanding, that was the difference. Orpik, Crosby... we'd have destroyed them tonight.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby DudeMan2766 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:49 pm

This is a team who defended a player who is the reason Crosby still isnt playing and put his career and our franchise in jeopardy, and we're gonna feel sorry because Asham did a 'nighty night" gesture after he knocked a guy out in a toe to toe fight? Some of you are trying way to hard to be objective. That dope got what he wanted and I dont think a single one of those ***** thought twice about Ovy's knee on Gonchar or Stekals hit on Crosby.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby Chefpatrick871 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:50 pm

Listen to the crowd explode when beagle drops. They should all apologize too lol.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby topshelf on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:53 pm

RxBandit66 wrote:
topshelf wrote:
RxBandit66 wrote:
Chefpatrick871 wrote:Really. The Gilles taunt was on a completely different level. Can we stop comparing the two. Asham had a fight with an unfortunate end for snoopy, this wasnt premeditated revenge followed with in the face taunting.



I guess I'm from a different generation of Pens' fans. It's not so much that Asham was "wrong" but I totally understand why Caps fans would be upset.

Mario or Ronnie Francis would not have made gestures while a player lay injured on the ice. I just think Penguins hockey is a class above that type of stuff. Bottom line.



Ulfie would have just blown own someone's knee.

I'm from the same generation as you, so don't compare Asham to Mario.


OK. Jay Caufield or Randy Cunneyworth would not have made that type of gesture. Fighting is part of hockey, taunging is not, and Shanahan will agree with me, as does the NFL. If a pitcher is taunted in MLB they throw a fastball at the guy the next time. It violates a code the players have. This is not WWF.


You just rattled off 3 sports.

You can't compare the NHL to MLB or the NFL because they don't allow fighting. Case closed.

Throwing a fastball at someone's head is not the same as knocking someone out (who deserved it), and then celebrating it. Get a grip.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby Chefpatrick871 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:55 pm

I guess I view a taunt as a more in the face thing. This was obviously towards the crowd. Crucify me for this if ya feel like but I view it on the same level as a sack celebration. Im sure there's been a time or two where a guy celebrated his play while a qb was hurt. Did they apologize?
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby cma3585 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:55 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby topshelf on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:56 pm

topshelf wrote:
RxBandit66 wrote:
topshelf wrote:
RxBandit66 wrote:
Chefpatrick871 wrote:Really. The Gilles taunt was on a completely different level. Can we stop comparing the two. Asham had a fight with an unfortunate end for snoopy, this wasnt premeditated revenge followed with in the face taunting.



I guess I'm from a different generation of Pens' fans. It's not so much that Asham was "wrong" but I totally understand why Caps fans would be upset.

Mario or Ronnie Francis would not have made gestures while a player lay injured on the ice. I just think Penguins hockey is a class above that type of stuff. Bottom line.



Ulfie would have just blown own someone's knee.

I'm from the same generation as you, so don't compare Asham to Mario.


OK. Jay Caufield or Randy Cunneyworth would not have made that type of gesture. Fighting is part of hockey, taunging is not, and Shanahan will agree with me, as does the NFL. If a pitcher is taunted in MLB they throw a fastball at the guy the next time. It violates a code the players have. This is not WWF.


You just rattled off 3 sports.

You can't compare the NHL to MLB or the NFL because they don't allow fighting. Case closed.

Throwing a fastball at someone's head is not the same as knocking someone out (who deserved it), and then celebrating it. Get a grip.


To clarify, a fastball to one's head is premeditated, and a celebration from a fight is adrenaline based.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby topshelf on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:56 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby Chefpatrick871 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:57 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby topshelf on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:00 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby DudeMan2766 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:02 pm

Keep in mind the Pens got a PP out of it because this bum got an instigating penalty.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:03 pm

wow at the people crying about Asham. Wow.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby pens#1 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:04 pm

DudeMan2766 wrote:Keep in mind the Pens got a PP out of it because this bum got an instigating penalty.


it was a roughing penalty
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby marek on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:04 pm

DudeMan2766 wrote:Keep in mind the Pens got a PP out of it because this bum got an instigating penalty.


I thought he got 2mins for roughing letang?
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby HockeyDaddy on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:05 pm

Little late to the party here, but not only did Asham apologize, but he tapped his stick on the glass immediately when Beagle got up. Adrenaline got the best of him while he was sticking up for a teammate. I understand Caps fans being mad, but Asham did the right thing by tapping the stick right away and apologizing at his earliest opportunity. Case closed.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby 71Aj66ax87 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:08 pm

marek wrote:
DudeMan2766 wrote:Keep in mind the Pens got a PP out of it because this bum got an instigating penalty.


I thought he got 2mins for roughing letang?


That's right,he did get the extra 2 minutes for roughing Letang.
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Re: OFFICIAL GDT: Pens vs Caps, 10/13/11

Postby topshelf on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:08 pm

HockeyDaddy wrote:Little late to the party here, but not only did Asham apologize, but he tapped his stick on the glass immediately when Beagle got up. Adrenaline got the best of him while he was sticking up for a teammate. I understand Caps fans being mad, but Asham did the right thing by tapping the stick right away and apologizing at his earliest opportunity. Case closed.


:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Case closed, indeed.

Asham showed that putz much more respect than he deserved.

If that was too much for people to handle, there is still plenty of MLB left.

Let's Go Pens!
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