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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pens4Life on Fri May 04, 2012 4:52 pm

Would Martin,Kennedy and 1st rounder be enough for Edmonton's 1st pick?
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby skullman80 on Fri May 04, 2012 4:58 pm

I don't think Edmonton would take that deal.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby KG on Fri May 04, 2012 5:24 pm

Pens4Life wrote:Would Martin,Kennedy and 1st rounder be enough for Edmonton's 1st pick?


Is this a serious proposal?

I don't think Martin, Kennedy and a 1st would be enough to get Andy Sutton from Edmonton....
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby firepower on Fri May 04, 2012 5:38 pm

Lets see, if I remember right, the year the Pens won the cup they led the league in penalty minutes, fighting majors, and misconducts. This year the Pens played the good little boys, one game excluded, and got bounced by the bad boys. Not saying that the Pens need to go back to the Lemuix Street Bullies :roll: , but Me thinks they need some of that back.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby MRandall25 on Fri May 04, 2012 6:09 pm

KG wrote:
Pens4Life wrote:Would Martin,Kennedy and 1st rounder be enough for Edmonton's 1st pick?


Is this a serious proposal?

I don't think Martin, Kennedy and a 1st would be enough to get Andy Sutton from Edmonton....


You seriously over-value Andy Sutton.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby mikey287 on Fri May 04, 2012 6:48 pm

KG wrote:
Pens4Life wrote:Would Martin,Kennedy and 1st rounder be enough for Edmonton's 1st pick?


Is this a serious proposal?


Can't be.

Counter from Edmonton:

Ryan Whitney, Ryan Jones and a 1st for Evgeni Malkin
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Guinness on Sun May 06, 2012 6:56 am

Pipes Hochuli wrote:Al Montoya.


Tony Montoya.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Rylan on Sun May 06, 2012 7:00 am

Guinness wrote:
Pipes Hochuli wrote:Al Montoya.


Tony Montoya.


Tony Montana
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Guinness on Sun May 06, 2012 7:59 am

Rylan wrote:
Guinness wrote:
Pipes Hochuli wrote:Al Montoya.


Tony Montoya.


Tony Montana


The circle is complete. :wink:
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby NJ5934 on Sun May 06, 2012 8:47 am

Since it is Sunday morning and everyone around here is clearly feeling a little jerky, would anyone consider....

To Edmonton: Malkin and Martin
To Pittsburgh: Taylor Hall, Jeff Petry and their 1st pick in the 2012 draft

?
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby thehockeyguru on Sun May 06, 2012 12:27 pm

NJ5934 wrote:Since it is Sunday morning and everyone around here is clearly feeling a little jerky, would anyone consider....

To Edmonton: Malkin and Martin
To Pittsburgh: Taylor Hall, Jeff Petry and their 1st pick in the 2012 draft

?


How does this make us better?
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby GSdrums87 on Sun May 06, 2012 12:36 pm

NJ5934 wrote:Since it is Sunday morning and everyone around here is clearly feeling a little jerky, would anyone consider....

To Edmonton: Malkin and Martin
To Pittsburgh: Taylor Hall, Jeff Petry and their 1st pick in the 2012 draft

?

Maybe if we knew we were signing Parise and Weber to long-term, affordable contracts.

In a less round-about way, no.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby ILikeTurtles on Sun May 06, 2012 2:49 pm

Rylan wrote:
Guinness wrote:
Pipes Hochuli wrote:Al Montoya.


Tony Montoya.


Tony Montana


Al Montana
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby NJ5934 on Sun May 06, 2012 7:56 pm

ILikeTurtles wrote:
Rylan wrote:
Guinness wrote:
Pipes Hochuli wrote:Al Montoya.


Tony Montoya.


Tony Montana


Al Montana


Joe Montana
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby NJ5934 on Sun May 06, 2012 8:08 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
NJ5934 wrote:Since it is Sunday morning and everyone around here is clearly feeling a little jerky, would anyone consider....

To Edmonton: Malkin and Martin
To Pittsburgh: Taylor Hall, Jeff Petry and their 1st pick in the 2012 draft

?


How does this make us better?


Well I think it would.

First off.....Staal stays and centers the second line. In all likelihood Staal and letang could be locked up long term.

Second....13 million in cap space creates a real opportunity for the pens to land either Weber or Suter this summer. I guess its a matter of opinion but I think this team is going to be a better team with Weber or Suter than Geno.

Third......Hall and Yakupov. Enough said.....not bad depth for the top six. Hall is probably a 75 point guy now alongside Sid.

I guess the short answer is we would be a better team because we would be a more balanced team.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby columbia on Sun May 06, 2012 8:24 pm

T. Hall - S. Crosby - D. Brown

I'll let you guys work out the fine print.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun May 06, 2012 8:28 pm

Weber is a RESTRICTED FREE AGENT
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby MRandall25 on Sun May 06, 2012 8:29 pm

NJ5934 wrote:
ILikeTurtles wrote:
Rylan wrote:
Guinness wrote:
Pipes Hochuli wrote:Al Montoya.


Tony Montoya.


Tony Montana


Al Montana


Joe Montana


Joe Mantegna
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby KG on Sun May 06, 2012 9:02 pm

I could see Shero trying to buy "cheap" on Chris Stewart in STL. He's a RFA and the Blues will most likely not be looking to re-sign him...
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby DesertPenguin on Sun May 06, 2012 9:17 pm

RS wants to retain Crosby and Staal. Whether he can do that depends on their contract demands and the cap, which is TBD based on the CBA.

He has stated that it would be tough to lose a player like Staal in FA for nothing, but if those questions dont get answered in time, he is open to going to UFA next summer with both players, rather than dealing away key players prior to what will be another prime chance to go for a cup.

I for one don't think Crosby gets a huge raise. He is, at present along with Malkin, still the 2nd highest paid player in the league, second to Ovechkin. Despite the cap going up every year since the lockout, salaries for the elite talent has not balooned in kind. I see a modest raise to the 9-10 million range, or could even see him getting extended at 8.7million.

As for Staal, its more about the role he wants to play on the team than it is about the money I believe. If he wants to stay here and play 3rd C or switch to wing, with 2nd team powerplay time, the deal will get done. If he wants to be the guy, it wont. As for money, if Staal says he wants to stay, the first thing you do is point to Neal's contract. 40 goal scorer with a physical presence. Does the little things right. 5 million per season. With that as a baseline, JS can't ask for more than 6m. We can handle that, especially if we move PM.

As to all you people looking to trade Crosby or Malkin, get real. RS will not trade those two, or Staal, unless it is a necessity. for Staal, it may be to keep the other two. For Sid or Geno, they aren't going anywhere.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun May 06, 2012 9:26 pm

If Staal wants over 5M I trade him in a second.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby npv708 on Sun May 06, 2012 11:52 pm

The last reigning Art Ross trophy winner to be traded, was Jagr. The last reigning Hart trophy winner to be traded was never. No MVP was traded within a season of winning the MVP. The only one to be close is Jagr, who was within 2 seasons, but was traded for a variety of reasons.

What's important to realize is that superstars, like Roy and Jagr, while they have been traded, it wasn't for the same reasons we'd be trading Malkin.

Just sayin'
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Nizzy on Mon May 07, 2012 1:12 am

If Leino gets 4.5m you can guarantee that staal is going to get 6m. Hes worth 6m nothing more in my opinion.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Mon May 07, 2012 8:37 am

The typical going rate for a second line centerman in the NHL right now is right around $5-5.5M. I could easily see Staal landing somewhere right in there. Being Shero's first and (by far) most successful draftee, I could see Jordan sticking around for a long term deal right at $5,000,000.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Mon May 07, 2012 8:38 am

Nizzy wrote:If Leino gets 4.5m you can guarantee that staal is going to get 6m. Hes worth 6m nothing more in my opinion.


If Staal chooses to go on the market, perhaps...I doubt it gets to that.
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