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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Rylan on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:14 am

Holy Wall o' Text Batman

Spoiler:
Good stuff Nizzy :fist:
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:22 am

I posted this in another thread...but since I'm the new GM, I'm blowing things up Paul Holmgren style just to let everyone know who the boss is around here (except for you Mario, sir)...

I approach STL with a trade. They have tons of size and grit, but little top-end skill, plus they have a pretty deep system of defensemen. I offer them Malkin (yeah, that's right) along with Brian Strait and a pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft, in exchange for TJ Oshie, Alex Pietrangelo, and (prospect) Jaden Schwartz.

Next I approach Brooks Orpik and tell him just how much he smells of BO and how he needs to move on. I tell him he better not name Winnipeg in his alotted 8-teams that he will not accept a trade to. Then I contact Winnipeg (who is in need of defensive defensemen...even if they smell) and offer them Orpik and Kennedy in exchange for Blake Wheeler.

My final trade is with Coloroado, who has all of three (3) defensemen signed for next year and will be about $48,000,000 under the cap. I offer them Paul Martin (after, again, forcing Paul to NOT name Colorado!...damn these NTC's are tricky!) for a second round pick in either 2012, or 2013.

My RFA's are all signed quickly because I'm a pleasure to negotiate with; Oshie (4 years, $13,000,000), Niskanen (2 years, $4,000,000), Tangradi (2 years, $1,500,000), and O'Reilly (1 year, $750,000...but he'll be waived to WB/S in camp).

On July 1st I strike quick with my two main UFA targets; Suter (6 years, $35,000,000) and Kelly (2 years, $6,750,000). Later that day I sign Josh Harding to a two year deal worth $3,000,000 because it's time we have a competent backup who can actually play in 30 games. A few days roll by (as I smoke my self-satisfaction cigars) and then I sign Jordin Tootoo to a three year deal for $4,000,000. Later in the summer I realize that Craig Adams passed away sometime in February, and I re-sign Richard Park for one year and $700,000.

In October, my coach's lineup looks like this...

James Neal | Sidney Crosby "C" | TJ Oshie
Chris Kunitz | Jordan Staal "A" | Blake Wheeler
Matt Cooke | Chris Kelly | Pascal Dupuis
Eric Tangradi | Joe Vitale | Jordin Tootoo
x Richard Park

Ryan Suter | Kris Letang "A"
Zbynek Michalek | Alex Pietrangelo
Simon Despres | Matt Niskanen
x Deryk Engellend

Marc-Andre Fleury
Josh Harding

Salary Cap = $68,000,000
2012-13 Pens Salary = exactly $63,345,500. Which means we have PLENTY of room to re-sign ALL of Crosby, Staal, Letang, Pietrangelo, and even Cooke and Dupuis...if they earn it.

In May of 2013, I'm nominated for the GM of the Year Award, just as the pens advance to the Stanley Cup Finals.

;^)
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pavel Bure on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:44 am

The only guy St. Louis might be willing to move is Stewart. They're not trading anyone else with how good that team is right now
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby shmenguin on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:45 am

blake wheeler? eh. orpik has more value than that, and aside from this year's unusual assists total, wheeler basically puts up the same PPG as kennedy (and i'd bet he's seen more meaningful PP time over his career). maybe he's a dynamo penalty killer or something, but we could do better.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:51 am

Pavel Bure wrote:The only guy St. Louis might be willing to move is Stewart. They're not trading anyone else with how good that team is right now


Did you neglect the part about how much of a joy I am to work with as a GM? :wink:
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pavel Bure on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:54 am

And as far as guys like

Parise
Suter
Weber
etc.

Are concerned, they are going to get paid and it won't be anything under or even at 6M. GMs look at those guys as franchise pieces to build around not complementary pieces to over power a team. In any scenario where one of them is brought here the Pens surely lose Letang in his next contract and Staal at the trade deadline.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pavel Bure on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:55 am

sil wrote:
Pavel Bure wrote:The only guy St. Louis might be willing to move is Stewart. They're not trading anyone else with how good that team is right now


Did you neglect the part about how much of a joy I am to work with as a GM? :wink:

Unless St. Louis's GM's two year old son is on the phone it doesn't matter if you're Willy Wonka
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:24 am

Pavel Bure wrote:
sil wrote:
Pavel Bure wrote:The only guy St. Louis might be willing to move is Stewart. They're not trading anyone else with how good that team is right now


Did you neglect the part about how much of a joy I am to work with as a GM? :wink:

Unless St. Louis's GM's two year old son is on the phone it doesn't matter if you're Willy Wonka


Well, Jordan Tootoo would fit as an Oompa Loompa then.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:25 am

Pavel Bure wrote:And as far as guys like

Parise
Suter
Weber
etc.

Are concerned, they are going to get paid and it won't be anything under or even at 6M. GMs look at those guys as franchise pieces to build around not complementary pieces to over power a team. In any scenario where one of them is brought here the Pens surely lose Letang in his next contract and Staal at the trade deadline.


Just wait and see when Detroit signs Suter this July for $5,500,000...or at most $6,000,000. Parise will come in around $7,000,000 or so, and NSH will re-sign Weber to somewhere around $8,000,000.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pavel Bure on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:31 am

sil wrote:
Pavel Bure wrote:
sil wrote:
Pavel Bure wrote:The only guy St. Louis might be willing to move is Stewart. They're not trading anyone else with how good that team is right now


Did you neglect the part about how much of a joy I am to work with as a GM? :wink:

Unless St. Louis's GM's two year old son is on the phone it doesn't matter if you're Willy Wonka


Well, Jordan Tootoo would fit as an Oompa Loompa then.

He's on my imaginary team :wink:
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby johnnews on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:57 pm

My first move as GM would be sit Geno and Letang down for a chat about getting into after the whistle BS with the Zac Rinaldo's of the NHL. Knock it off, idiots.

Second, I just don't see why Sid and Neal aren't together. Yeah, I know the "best line in the league" stuff. But, honestly, were they after about 3/10? Sid plays with Neal. That's why he got 5 mil.

Lastly, I make a big push for Parise. And that's my first line. Parise, Sid, Neal. Add a little grit on D, kick back and watch the show.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pens4Life on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:33 pm

Coy and Vance wrote:The first move i would make is get rid of the blue uniforms and bring back the diagonal PITTSBURGH jersey as your 3rd. Second move I would make is trade Paul Martin and Dustin Jeffrey to Calgary for Curtis Glencross and 2nd and 4th rounder. Sign Ryan Suter, Travis Moen and Jordan Tootoo.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Glencross-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Moen-Vitale-Tootoo
Adams

Suter-Letang
Orpik-Michalek
Niskanen-Despres
Engelland

I like this one :fist:

Fleury
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:44 pm

Pens4Life wrote:
Coy and Vance wrote:The first move i would make is get rid of the blue uniforms and bring back the diagonal PITTSBURGH jersey as your 3rd. Second move I would make is trade Paul Martin and Dustin Jeffrey to Calgary for Curtis Glencross and 2nd and 4th rounder. Sign Ryan Suter, Travis Moen and Jordan Tootoo.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Glencross-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Moen-Vitale-Tootoo
Adams

Suter-Letang
Orpik-Michalek
Niskanen-Despres
Engelland

I like this one :fist:

Fleury
Hedberg


I like it too, but here's the problem...

$3,725,000 - $8,700,000 - $1,500,000
$2,550,000 - $8,700,000 - $5,000,000
$1,800,000 - $4,000,000 - $2,000,000
$1,800,000 - $550,000 - $1,400,000
$600,000 (for 13th forward)

$6,000,000 - $3,500,000
$3,750,000 - $4,000,000
$1,800,000 - $840,000
$525,000 (for 7th D)

$5,000,000
$700,000

Total Team Cap Hit = $68,440,000

NPV set our imaginary cap @ $68,000,000...but realistically the cap will probably be pretty close to it's current number of $64,400,000. Suddenly we're $4,000,000 OVER the cap.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:45 pm

I should add that there has been some speculation that the cap number (after the new CBA) could actually drop below where it's currently at...by as much as $1,000,000 to $2,000,000. That would not be good for us.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pens4Life on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:24 pm

Trade Martin,Michalek and Lovejoy at least on D,re-sign Niskanen,sign Suter 5.5M/4 years. at trade deadline go after stud psyhical D-man...
On F - sign Moen and big psyhical F who can play good allround game..

Kunitz - Malkin - Neal
Big LW thru trade - Crosby - Dupuis
Cooke - Staal - Kennedy
Moen - Vitale - Tangradi
x - Adams

Suter - Letang
Orpik - Niskanen
Despres - Engelland
x - Strait

MAF
reliable backup !?
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Rylan on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:26 pm

Sutter will not go for less than 6. But again, that defense is over-paid. Find a Hal Gill or someone of that nature. You need stay at home-defense. That is a big part in making the defense work for Bylsma's system. Plus if GMRS decides to fire Bylsma, a stay at home D still will work in that defense.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Malkamaniac on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:29 pm

Yea, I think they sign a Hal Gill type guy right out of the gate this year in Free Agency.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:30 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:Yea, I think they sign a Hal Gill type guy right out of the gate this year in Free Agency.


So who fits that bill? Slim pickins for those type as I see it...at least the ones in our price range.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:31 pm

Rylan wrote:Sutter will not go for less than 6. But again, that defense is over-paid. Find a Hal Gill or someone of that nature. You need stay at home-defense. That is a big part in making the defense work for Bylsma's system. Plus if GMRS decides to fire Bylsma, a stay at home D still will work in that defense.


I still say Suter will sign somewhere for less than $6,000,000 if he gets good term. Detroit will probably get him for around $5.8M and 5-7 years.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Malkamaniac on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:35 pm

sil wrote:
Malkamaniac wrote:Yea, I think they sign a Hal Gill type guy right out of the gate this year in Free Agency.


So who fits that bill? Slim pickins for those type as I see it...at least the ones in our price range.


Hal Gill fits the bill.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby shmenguin on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:37 pm

we don't need to bring in a marquee defenseman. spending 5-6 mill on that type of player will be a waste of money. we need a #4 who is big, experienced and gnarly - not suter or webber.

unless you're trading malkin (which is insane), now isn't the time to make any significant investments in players. even if we ditch martin, we need to have that money available in a couple years when we need to re-up letang. the only signings should be old school shero moves: veterans on short term deals.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Malkamaniac on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:37 pm

Trade Martin, Sign Gill and Gaustad.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby sil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:40 pm

So how does Shero trade Martin and his NMC and NTC? How limited is his NTC? Honestly, I'm looking at Colorado who will be $45,000,000 under the cap with only 3-D signed this offseason.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby Pavel Bure on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:59 pm

shmenguin wrote:we don't need to bring in a marquee defenseman. spending 5-6 mill on that type of player will be a waste of money. we need a #4 who is big, experienced and gnarly - not suter or webber.

Look at one of Barret Jackman, Cory Sarich, or Brad Stuart.
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Re: You're the GM: Part 3

Postby DelPen on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:07 pm

Qualify Niskanen and Tangradi and keep Despres up full time:

FORWARDS
James Neal ($5.000m)/Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m)/Chris Kunitz ($3.725m)
Jordan Staal($4.000m)/Sidney Crosby ($8.700m)/Pascal Dupuis ($1.500m)
Matt Cooke ($1.800m)/Dustin Jeffrey ($0.575m)/ Tyler Kennedy ($2.000m)
Eric Tangradi ($0.726m)/Joe Vitale ($0.550m)/Craig Adams ($0.675m)

DEFENSEMEN
Brooks Orpik ($3.750m)/ Kris Letang ($3.500m)
Matt Niskanen ($1.500m)/Simon Despres ($0.840m)
Paul Martin ($5.000m)/Zbynek Michalek ($4.000m)
Deryk Engelland ($0.567m)/Ben Lovejoy ($0.525m)

GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Brad Thiessen ($0.578m)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $63,210,167;
BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster) $1,089,833


Anyone expecting to see something much different better not get your hopes up.
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