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Re: The draft

Postby emptyfriend on Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:01 pm

With all this talk about trading Martin, has anyone pondered the bigger question? Where will Neal eat breakfast now???
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Re: The draft

Postby Pens4Life on Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:20 pm

emptyfriend wrote:With all this talk about trading Martin, has anyone pondered the bigger question? Where will Neal eat breakfast now???

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Re: The draft

Postby emptyfriend on Tue May 01, 2012 6:13 am

Pens4Life wrote:
emptyfriend wrote:With all this talk about trading Martin, has anyone pondered the bigger question? Where will Neal eat breakfast now???

:thumbdown: :face:

Coming from you.....that's a compliment..... :lol:
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Re: The draft

Postby sil on Tue May 01, 2012 9:13 am

emptyfriend wrote:With all this talk about trading Martin, has anyone pondered the bigger question? Where will Neal eat breakfast now???


I'd imagine he'll just continue going to that house for breakfast every morning, regardless of who lives there.

"Honey, why is that man with the smelly greasy hair in our kitchen again"?

"I don't know, he just shows up every morning demanding eggs. He's kind of big, so I'm afraid to say 'no' to him."
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Re: The draft

Postby Corvidae on Sun May 06, 2012 1:37 pm

Mr. Colby wrote:Latest Pens can pick now is #23, with Florida losing


I have a major problem with the fact that 1st and 2nd round playoff teams are lumped together in draft ordering. Pens could draft after the team that beat them.
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Re: The draft

Postby Mr. Colby on Mon May 07, 2012 1:13 am

Corvidae wrote:
Mr. Colby wrote:Latest Pens can pick now is #23, with Florida losing


I have a major problem with the fact that 1st and 2nd round playoff teams are lumped together in draft ordering. Pens could draft after the team that beat them.


It used to be 3rd round lumped in with that too. I think it's fair though - regular season is 82 games, should hold more bearing on the draft than playoffs...

Making the 2nd round could be a fluke, making the conference finals means you had a nice playoff run
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Re: The draft

Postby Mr. Colby on Mon May 07, 2012 1:14 am

Pens will pick no later than #22 with St. Louis loss
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Re: The draft

Postby sil on Mon May 07, 2012 12:17 pm

Mr. Colby wrote:Pens will pick no later than #22 with St. Louis loss


That moves up to 19 if PHX, NJD, and WSH all win their respective series, correct?

Nope...numbers failure on my part...nevermind.
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Re: The draft

Postby Corvidae on Mon May 07, 2012 12:44 pm

Mr. Colby wrote:It used to be 3rd round lumped in with that too. I think it's fair though - regular season is 82 games, should hold more bearing on the draft than playoffs...

Making the 2nd round could be a fluke, making the conference finals means you had a nice playoff run


Yeah but it puts even less meaning on the regular season, in a way. If you play so-so for 82 and sneak into 8th place you could win the Stanley Cup... or draft 15th overall. The stronger playoff team is the stronger team, and the draft order should go by each round (then points).

When the team that beats you could draft before you, it's just not right since they're the better team.
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Re: The draft

Postby Tomas on Mon May 07, 2012 1:10 pm

Don't want to start a new thread, so here is the newest item on the draft - Crosby Tears! :twisted:

http://www.ripsneakers.com/nodding/main ... tion=Draft
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Re: The draft

Postby sil on Tue May 08, 2012 12:02 pm

Don't want to steal your thunder Mr. Colby, so I'll ask you to confirm...

If the Rangers and Devils both win their respective series, we'll be locked in at picking #22 overall, correct?
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Re: The draft

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue May 08, 2012 12:06 pm

sil wrote:
Mr. Colby wrote:Pens will pick no later than #22 with St. Louis loss


That moves up to 19 if PHX, NJD, and WSH all win their respective series, correct?


NJ has no effect - loser of that series picks before us no matter what

If Washington wins, we would pick before the Rangers. But if Rangers win, Washington picks before us.

Nashville picks before us.

Actually, we pick either 21 or 22 now, depending on the outcome of the Rangers-Caps series. If the Caps win, we pick 21st. If the Rangers win, we pick 22nd.
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Re: The draft

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue May 08, 2012 12:07 pm

sil wrote:Don't want to steal your thunder Mr. Colby, so I'll ask you to confirm...

If the Rangers and Devils both win their respective series, we'll be locked in at picking #22 overall, correct?


You got it. (again, Philly-Devils series has no bearing on our draft position, as neither of them won the division)
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Re: The draft

Postby sil on Tue May 08, 2012 1:28 pm

Mr. Colby wrote:
sil wrote:
Mr. Colby wrote:Pens will pick no later than #22 with St. Louis loss


That moves up to 19 if PHX, NJD, and WSH all win their respective series, correct?


NJ has no effect - loser of that series picks before us no matter what

If Washington wins, we would pick before the Rangers. But if Rangers win, Washington picks before us.

Nashville picks before us.

Actually, we pick either 21 or 22 now, depending on the outcome of the Rangers-Caps series. If the Caps win, we pick 21st. If the Rangers win, we pick 22nd.


I actually edited my post earlier...realizing my mistakes.
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Re: The draft

Postby sil on Wed May 09, 2012 10:19 am

One series left in round 2.

If the Rags win, the pens pick #22.
If the Caps win, the pens pick #21.

Looking back at the Letestu trade, as it stands right now, the pens will have three picks in the first 62 regardless (which is, for all intents and purposes, three picks in the first two rounds).
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Re: The draft

Postby steelhammer on Wed May 09, 2012 12:07 pm

sil wrote:One series left in round 2.

If the Rags win, the pens pick #22.
If the Caps win, the pens pick #21.

Looking back at the Letestu trade, as it stands right now, the pens will have three picks in the first 62 regardless (which is, for all intents and purposes, three picks in the first two rounds).


That Letestu pick is in the 4th round.
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Re: The draft

Postby sil on Wed May 09, 2012 12:22 pm

steelhammer wrote:
sil wrote:One series left in round 2.

If the Rags win, the pens pick #22.
If the Caps win, the pens pick #21.

Looking back at the Letestu trade, as it stands right now, the pens will have three picks in the first 62 regardless (which is, for all intents and purposes, three picks in the first two rounds).


That Letestu pick is in the 4th round.


Damn, just checked that myself. So essentially four picks in the first three rounds based on CBJ picking #2 overall.
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Re: The draft

Postby Oneonta Penguin on Wed May 09, 2012 12:27 pm

My wish ... Girgensons falls to the Pens at 21. I don't think that happens

My guess - someone like Hertl or Matteau

Agree with Jesse, Bozon would be a nice pick that I'd be more than fine with.
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Re: The draft

Postby sil on Wed May 09, 2012 12:37 pm

Oneonta Penguin wrote:My wish ... Girgensons falls to the Pens at 21. I don't think that happens

My guess - someone like Hertl or Matteau

Agree with Jesse, Bozon would be a nice pick that I'd be more than fine with.


I still want Guance, but the pens will have to trade up.
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Re: The draft

Postby steelhammer on Fri May 11, 2012 8:10 am

sil wrote:
steelhammer wrote:
sil wrote:One series left in round 2.

If the Rags win, the pens pick #22.
If the Caps win, the pens pick #21.

Looking back at the Letestu trade, as it stands right now, the pens will have three picks in the first 62 regardless (which is, for all intents and purposes, three picks in the first two rounds).


That Letestu pick is in the 4th round.


Damn, just checked that myself. So essentially four picks in the first three rounds based on CBJ picking #2 overall.


Columbus only picks 2nd in the 1st round. All of their other picks are at the #1 position for each round. That being said, Pens have their pick at #1 in the 4th round. Perfect spot to draft a goalie in my opinion or maybe a high risk pick if available. A high risk goalie would be the perfect pick there :)
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Re: The draft

Postby steelhammer on Fri May 11, 2012 8:21 am

Oneonta Penguin wrote:My wish ... Girgensons falls to the Pens at 21. I don't think that happens

My guess - someone like Hertl or Matteau

Agree with Jesse, Bozon would be a nice pick that I'd be more than fine with.


I want the Pens to draft Bozon as well, but I'm wondering if they can trade down and pick up another pick to do so. Seems likely based off of the rankings, but like Jesse I believe his stock will begin to rise closer to the draft. Ideally, the Pens can trade down and draft him late 1st or early 2nd while acquiring a very nice additional pick in the process.
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Re: The draft

Postby Shyster on Fri May 11, 2012 6:36 pm

Speaking of the draft, for you STHs, which day are you going for? I decided to request tickets for Saturday, as I thought it would be more interesting to see the growing desperation of the guys still there as the rounds tick off.
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Re: The draft

Postby Mr. Colby on Mon May 14, 2012 6:53 pm

In case anybody is wondering, the Pens have the 22nd overall pick in this year's draft
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Re: The draft

Postby sil on Tue May 15, 2012 10:57 am

Jesse, your thoughts on Tanner Pearson as I noticed he wasn't on your original list of names? Could be a mid-late first round selection, or possibly second round. Has been passed over before, but really seems like the kind of forward Shero would like...not overly big, but not small, quick, good shot, willing to go to the net and doesn't stick to the perimeter...not overly skilled, but plays smart when holding the puck. Idk, I've already said I prefer Guance the most (though I doubt he drops to #22)...what would your feelings be if we drafted Pearson? Too much of a risk for a kid older than most to take in the first round?
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Re: The draft

Postby Jesse on Wed May 16, 2012 10:09 am

Sil - I don't think we'll take him. His draft stock will be adversely affected by not playing at the end of the year because of injury. I think he needed a solid run late season to really solidify his stock. Looking at the way the rankings are shaking down and what some scouts are saying, Pearson won't go in the first round at all. I wouldn't expect to see the Penguins take a gamble on guys that are listed later on most boards. Remember, Shero isn't targeting anyone. He's checking names off of his best player available list and taking whoever is highest, regardless of position, when the Penguins pick. It will be neither Pearson or Bozon.
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