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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:03 pm

If Parise does sign here, it will be for no more than 8 million. That's the ceiling.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby columbia on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:05 pm

Aside from the hometown/family aspects, he might as well stay in NJ instead of going to MIN and deal with years of mediocrity.

I'd say it is 50/50 that he stays put.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby CERV96 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:05 pm

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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby pcm on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:05 pm

I bet he signs with a team willing to give him more than 10 years. He's 28; can the Pens afford to have him on their payroll for 10 years at 7+ million? I'd say the Pens' offer caps at 7 years $54 million. He'd have to really want to join a potential winner to sign here (remember Hossa?). I don't know enough about his personality
though to say if that's a likelihood.

My guess is Min signs him for a huge front-loaded 12 years $80+ million.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:09 pm

I think it's 50/50 he signs here or NJ.

If he goes to Minnesota then it was because he wanted to cash in. He will never win a cup there and they will never be able to build a team around him with the goofy money the GM is gonna throw at him. I like to think Parise is smarter than this.

I just don't see Detroit. No real reason but i think he wouldn't wanna travel and play in that dump. Also, the players are getting way older and his window there is relatively short.

I think it really comes down to NJ or Pitt and since i simply can't believe in this dream coming true, i will say he resigns in NJ an hour into free agency.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:12 pm

If the Pens get him, it will be something like 10 years/80 million.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby steelhammer on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:17 pm

Bioshock wrote:If the Pens get him, it will be something like 10 years/80 million.


The idea of him carrying an $8M cap hit in his mid/late 30's doesn't sit well with me at all. No thanks.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:20 pm

steelhammer wrote:
Bioshock wrote:If the Pens get him, it will be something like 10 years/80 million.


The idea of him carrying an $8M cap hit in his mid/late 30's doesn't sit well with me at all. No thanks.


Well, i really see them having him for the same duration as Crosby if they were to get him.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:27 pm

I really think this is your roster if you get Parise and nothing happens with Suter.

Chris Kunitz ($3.725m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / James Neal ($5.000m)
Pascal Dupuis ($1.500m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Zach Parise ($8.000m)
Matt Cooke ($1.800m) / Brandon Sutter ($2.067m) / Tyler Kennedy ($2.000m)
Craig Adams ($0.675m) / Dominic Moore ($1.300m) / Eric Tangradi ($0.900m)
Joe Vitale ($0.550m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Paul Martin ($5.000m) / Matt Niskanen ($2.500m)
Kris Letang ($3.500m) / Brooks Orpik ($3.750m)
Deryk Engelland ($0.567m) / Simon Despres ($0.840m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Tomas Vokoun ($2.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,673,333; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,626,667
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby pens_CT on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:29 pm

steelhammer wrote:
Bioshock wrote:If the Pens get him, it will be something like 10 years/80 million.


The idea of him carrying an $8M cap hit in his mid/late 30's doesn't sit well with me at all. No thanks.

Who knows what the cap is going to be in 5 to 10 years, but its a safe bet to assume that his salary as a percentage of the cap will go down dramatically, if the the past 5 years are any indicator.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby spiritfan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:33 pm

Max cap hit still $10M per?... I dunno, players making between 9 to 10 I consider very elite and I dont put Parise in that category... anybody know who is in that tip tier?... a little FYI the Devils are on the verge of bankruptcy at bout $50M in the hole and the creditors are want paid now and only delayed until seasons end cause league by laws... more of this should be comming out soon in the media
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby steelhammer on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:35 pm

Bioshock wrote:I really think this is your roster if you get Parise and nothing happens with Suter.

Chris Kunitz ($3.725m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / James Neal ($5.000m)
Pascal Dupuis ($1.500m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Zach Parise ($8.000m)
Matt Cooke ($1.800m) / Brandon Sutter ($2.067m) / Tyler Kennedy ($2.000m)
Craig Adams ($0.675m) / Dominic Moore ($1.300m) / Eric Tangradi ($0.900m)
Joe Vitale ($0.550m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Paul Martin ($5.000m) / Matt Niskanen ($2.500m)
Kris Letang ($3.500m) / Brooks Orpik ($3.750m)
Deryk Engelland ($0.567m) / Simon Despres ($0.840m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Tomas Vokoun ($2.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,673,333; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,626,667


I don't see the need to sign Moore and put Vitale out of the lineup. Vitale had a great year and a poor playoff showing (he was a rookie and honestly looked like he may have been injured). Vitale is most certainly in the lineup. That Parise cap hit looks even worse paired with the rest of the team. Just no.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:37 pm

spiritfan wrote:Max cap hit still $10M per?... I dunno, players making between 9 to 10 I consider very elite and I dont put Parise in that category... anybody know who is in that tip tier?... a little FYI the Devils are on the verge of bankruptcy at bout $50M in the hole and the creditors are want paid now and only delayed until seasons end cause league by laws... more of this should be comming out soon in the media


Cap max is 14 million
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby steelhammer on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:37 pm

spiritfan wrote:Max cap hit still $10M per?... I dunno, players making between 9 to 10 I consider very elite and I dont put Parise in that category... anybody know who is in that tip tier?... a little FYI the Devils are on the verge of bankruptcy at bout $50M in the hole and the creditors are want paid now and only delayed until seasons end cause league by laws... more of this should be comming out soon in the media


Signing a long deal with someone in their late 20's is usually a bad deal because you are signing them right after their peak and it's all downhill from there. Those are the contracts that cripple a team.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:39 pm

Well, Shero is clearing space for him or Suter and it's gonna take between 6.5 to 8 million for the Pens. Sorry, that's just the facts. And even going that high he still might not sign. I just pray that Crosby has been in his ear as much as everying is saying. He will have to leave money on the table to play here, that's for sure.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby mikey287 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:41 pm

spiritfan wrote:Max cap hit still $10M per?... I dunno, players making between 9 to 10 I consider very elite and I dont put Parise in that category... anybody know who is in that tip tier?... a little FYI the Devils are on the verge of bankruptcy at bout $50M in the hole and the creditors are want paid now and only delayed until seasons end cause league by laws... more of this should be comming out soon in the media


I don't think there's a single word of this that's correct...
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby spiritfan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:41 pm

Whats the worst that can happen is the Pens don't get any top tier free agents and start the season with $15M in cap space... but then again you don't wanna overpay for a nobody... perhaps then lower ticket prices?
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:43 pm

Well, we are all really worrying about nothing honestly. If Shero does sign him, to whatever that number may be, Shero will have than number built into his game plan for the future of the team. Shero is too smart to get into a bidding war that will cripple the team for years to come.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby spiritfan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:46 pm

Wow $14M!!!... no shtt Crosby is gonna take $10M min cause Fehr needs that... as much as I usually agree with the owners I gotta side with the players this time and if some franchises gotta fold then let them fold... I read somewhere on twitter that a GM says there's 8 to 10 big names available via trade... might be te for GMRS to sharpen his pencil or recharge his Bluetooth
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby no name on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:54 pm

If we get Parise or Suter, Martin will be traded for much needed cap relief.

And i can't see where most of you are getting suter for 5.5 or so. He is only .5 better than Martin. The guy will get a minimum of 7 and could get as high as 8.5
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby spiritfan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:56 pm

What's the top D in the league make? Suter is not elite.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby spiritfan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:57 pm

So Letang may get $7 to $8 in a few years? Yikes !
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:08 pm

spiritfan wrote:What's the top D in the league make? Suter is not elite.


Yes he is.
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:17 pm

Highest cap hit for a Defenseman is Brian Campbell at 7.14 million
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Re: What should GMRS pay Parise?

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:17 pm

Highest Salary for a defenseman is Tyler Myers at 12 million. LOL
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