What should GMRS pay Parise?

[sil]

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9. Have always believed Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson's best opportunity to deal Rick Nash will be after Parise's decision. Think some other
teams hoped their first-round picks would really appeal to Columbus, but that wasn't the case. My guess is that Nash and Bobby Ryan, if Anaheim wants to do it, get dealt after Parise signs. If Pittsburgh doesn't get Parise, Nash makes sense -- assuming it has what the Blue Jackets want.

I'd be willing to offer up to 7.8 mil/year to Parise (Rick Nash Money), he cannot and will not make more than Sid. If he wants to chase the dollar good luck in Minnesota or Toronto.

I was thinking around $7.5 to $8 million. That is probably a ceiling for the Pens. I think some teams would offer more, but in the case of say Minnesota or Toronto, if they would offer $9 million/year, is that enough to offset the ability to win and contend for Cups every year.

If Burke pays Parise $9,000,000...still without a true #1 center...well, that'd just be hilarious.

[spiritfan]

So say Wild offer $10M and Pens offer $8M... what's Zack gonna do?

[Chefpatrick871]

A dollar and some envelopes.

[pens#1]

Shero should pay Parise what Crosby told Parse he will earn playing on his wing

[TheHammer24]

So say Wild offer $10M and Pens offer $8M... what's Zack gonna do?

Play for Minnesota

[MRandall25]

So say Wild offer $10M and Pens offer $8M... what's Zack gonna do?

Play for Minnesota

So you think he's going all out for the cash?

[columbia]

he might.

[Pens15]

It's going to be really interesting to see what guys like Suter and Parise do. Under this system, it's pretty clear that contenders that already have a lot of good players are not going to be able to go as high in terms of cap hit. So they have a pretty clear choice of maximizing their dollars or taking less to be on (what should be) a better team.

Since this cap has been in place, it seems like most marquee free agents have gone the route of less money to play with a winner. Teams like Edmonton, the Islanders, and other perennial basement dwellers have had an extremely hard time luring free agents despite offering more money.

[Earlacher24]

A dollar and some envelopes.

I'm gonna sue for A HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND......................but we can settle out of court for 50 bucks.

[Noise]

I'd say no more than 7.5. I don't think Parise & Suter are gonna go for the highest offers on the table. They'll choose the team they want to go to instead of taking the money.

[Bioshock]

Keep in mind that less money is relative in this situation.

In the case of Parise, he would be taking 8 million or less to play here. Still a hell of a lot.

Did anyone see how much wideman got? 5.25 million per season? Jesus... Yeah, Suter is gonna break the bank. He ain't coming here. He will sign for 7.5 minimum.

[Rocco]

Shero should pay Parise whatever Parise wants to make the fans happy. Then the fans can complain that Shero paid Parise too much.

[DontToewsMeBro]

I don't think Shero will be shelling out $8 for Parise, he has never been the type to overspend on anybody and that is quite frankly overpayment when James Neal is making significantly less than that for more production (obviously inflated a bit because he plays with Malkin). I see low 7s and hopefully not too long of a term. Anybody know who the big UFAs next year will be?

[marek]

Sid at 8.7 for multiple years going forward establishes the ceiling not only for the pens but league-wide. A team that pays more than that for any talent is overpaying.

[Chefpatrick871]

A dollar and some envelopes.

I'm gonna sue for A HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND......................but we can settle out of court for 50 bucks.

:fist:

[tfrizz]

Now that the Crosby news broke, the follow-up talk on Twitter is that the Pens are expected to be big, legitimate players in the running for both Suter and Parise.

[sil]

Now that the Crosby news broke, the follow-up talk on Twitter is that the Pens are expected to be big, legitimate players in the running for both Suter and Parise.

If Sid signs for $9,000,000 per or less...and if Suter and Parise both come here with managable cap hits...Shero would have to be the very early favorite for GM of the Year.

[Fire0nice228]

Sid at 8.7 for multiple years going forward establishes the ceiling not only for the pens but league-wide. A team that pays more than that for any talent is overpaying.

You gotta imagine though, that Sid makes a TON more in endorsements etc than every other player in the league. Many of them have one source of income and that is there playing salary, not much else for most of them.

[tfrizz]

Sid at 8.7 for multiple years going forward establishes the ceiling not only for the pens but league-wide. A team that pays more than that for any talent is overpaying.

You gotta imagine though, that Sid makes a TON more in endorsements etc than every other player in the league. Many of them have one source of income and that is there playing salary, not much else for most of them.

That's part of what makes him so valuable. 99% of the time, Crosby getting exposure means the Penguins getting exposure.

[Fire0nice228]

Very true. I guess my point was that while Sid might take less base salary knowing he's got other streams of income, a player like Parise or Suter, while they still probably get some money thru other ways via endorsments or commercials or whatever, its not in the realm of Crosby, and thus they and other players must bankroll the max they can get via their player salary (if they choose to do that vs play for a winner)

[Noise]

If you're a first time free agent, the difference between 7.5 & 9 million a year is a lot less than the difference between 3.5 & 5 million a year, even though the numbers are the same.

IMO it's those guys you'd like to sign for 3.5 million a year but might be able to get 5 million a year elsewhere that are less likely to take a pay cut to play where they want.

[thehockeyguru]

IMO, Suter is the #1 priority and they can't sign both.

[columbia]

IMO, Suter is the #1 priority and they can't sign both.

Signing Parise is certainly the sexier idea, but I'd take Suter over him.

[sil]

IMO, Suter is the #1 priority and they can't sign both.

That's debatable. Short term, yeah, you're probably right. Long term, with our forward prospect pool in the shallow end...perhaps not. Imagine Crosby, Malkin, Neal, and Parise signed long term with our wealth of D-prospects on the rise? Suter may well be the better player, but there's no question as to where our strengths are in regards to prospects.

[thehockeyguru]

IMO, Suter is the #1 priority and they can't sign both.

Signing Parise is certainly the sexier idea, but I'd take Suter over him.

If they land Suter @ 7.5M per and move Martin that still leaves 12M roughly in cap space. I'd love to see if Semin wanted to sign a 1yr 6M deal with the Pens.

I can't see them dumping big bucks and length into Suter and Parise with the CBA pending.