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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Antonio on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:21 pm

Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


They'll never be able to afford them both at $8.7 in the same year.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Pensrock on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:27 pm

Yeah the thought of them now having to trade Malkin because Crosby agreed to an extension at the same Cap hit is borderline ludicrous. If anything it helps keep Malkin here.

Will Malkin eventually get traded? Who knows for sure, but it won't be because of this Crosby contract. And it won't be because the Pens want to.

The only scenario that I see Malkin getting traded is if he asks for the Max or something like that where it forces the Pens hands. But I have seen not one thing from Malkin to indicidate this is what he will do.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Ossa on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:29 pm

Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


I don't disagree with you, but his contract is front loaded. The first 9 years of his contract are 10+ mil
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby mikey287 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:30 pm

Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


Buccigross, while a nice guy, has always been a hack regarding his knowledge of the inner-workings of the league...he's just a fan.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby penny lane on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:40 pm

GM Ray Shero; I have faith that next June we'll be having this thread for Gene! :D
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby PensOnDVD on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:44 pm

The Pens could still afford Malkin at the max. The increase from his current salary to the max is peanuts.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Cr@zy871 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:46 pm

Ossa wrote:
Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


I don't disagree with you, but his contract is front loaded. The first 9 years of his contract are 10+ mil


That is what he will be paid salary wise, but his cap hit will only be $8.7 mil... Down the line when he is getting paid around $4 mil, his cap hit will still be $8.7 mil... You get me?
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Sarcastic on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:48 pm

Time to buy a Crosby jersey cuz he's gonna be here, um, forever.

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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Cr@zy871 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:48 pm

PensOnDVD wrote:The Pens could still afford Malkin at the max. The increase from his current salary to the max is peanuts.


I hope you are joking, as the jump from his current contract to the max would be around $5 million... Thats alot of peanuts... About 50% more than he is making currently...
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Sarcastic on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:50 pm

Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


That's not even worth discussing it's so dumb.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby littlemoonboot on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:51 pm

I love my Captain!

And if Malkin wants to stay a Penguin, he will stay a Penguin. Nuff said.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby darkstar57 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:56 pm

Sarcastic wrote:
Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


That's not even worth discussing it's so dumb.


um its not dumb, its not the 9 million per year, its the 100 million dollars that each player will get over the life of the contract

lets say stall signed his deal, he would have made 40 million dollars less then crosby over the life of the contract.

the main question is can you support a business where over a 10 year period 2 players will take away 200 million dollars. trading malkin away you might replace him over that 10 year period with considering less money, maybe only 70 million, so you save yourself 30 million. While it might not seem like alot of money, it really is
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Corvidae on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:01 pm

darkstar57 wrote:um its not dumb, its not the 9 million per year, its the 100 million dollars that each player will get over the life of the contract

lets say stall signed his deal, he would have made 40 million dollars less then crosby over the life of the contract.

the main question is can you support a business where over a 10 year period 2 players will take away 200 million dollars. trading malkin away you might replace him over that 10 year period with considering less money, maybe only 70 million, so you save yourself 30 million. While it might not seem like alot of money, it really is


That's all I could see.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby littlemoonboot on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:04 pm

Corvidae wrote:
darkstar57 wrote:um its not dumb, its not the 9 million per year, its the 100 million dollars that each player will get over the life of the contract

lets say stall signed his deal, he would have made 40 million dollars less then crosby over the life of the contract.

the main question is can you support a business where over a 10 year period 2 players will take away 200 million dollars. trading malkin away you might replace him over that 10 year period with considering less money, maybe only 70 million, so you save yourself 30 million. While it might not seem like alot of money, it really is


That's all I could see.



:lol:
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Zach6668 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:06 pm

darkstar57 wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:
Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


That's not even worth discussing it's so dumb.


um its not dumb, its not the 9 million per year, its the 100 million dollars that each player will get over the life of the contract

lets say stall signed his deal, he would have made 40 million dollars less then crosby over the life of the contract.

the main question is can you support a business where over a 10 year period 2 players will take away 200 million dollars. trading malkin away you might replace him over that 10 year period with considering less money, maybe only 70 million, so you save yourself 30 million. While it might not seem like alot of money, it really is


What? The Pens are probably spending to te cap anyways, so they'd be spending the money regardless...
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Sarcastic on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:10 pm

darkstar57 wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:
Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


That's not even worth discussing it's so dumb.


um its not dumb, its not the 9 million per year, its the 100 million dollars that each player will get over the life of the contract

lets say stall signed his deal, he would have made 40 million dollars less then crosby over the life of the contract.

the main question is can you support a business where over a 10 year period 2 players will take away 200 million dollars. trading malkin away you might replace him over that 10 year period with considering less money, maybe only 70 million, so you save yourself 30 million. While it might not seem like alot of money, it really is


You gotta pay these players anyway, so they'll do that regardless of how long a contract a dude signs. I mean, if a team can't afford two star players, then screw it... close down the league and go home.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Sarcastic on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:12 pm

That is all hoping that Malkin signs for $8.7 like Crosby, of course. lol

We love you, GENO.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby duke66 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:16 pm

with sid signed at an 8.7 million cap hit for the forseeable future. here is my lineup for 2012-13. hehe.


FORWARDS
James Neal ($5.000m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / Chris Kunitz ($3.725m)
Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.500m)
Matt Cooke ($1.800m) / Brandon Sutter ($2.067m) / Tyler Kennedy ($2.000m)
Arron Asham ($0.775m) / Craig Adams ($0.675m) / Joe Vitale ($0.550m)
Eric Tangradi ($0.726m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($3.500m) / Brooks Orpik ($3.750m)
Jason Garrison ($3.500m) / Bryan Allen ($3.500m)
Matt Niskanen ($2.000m) / Deryk Engelland ($0.567m)
Simon Despres ($0.840m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Tomas Vokoun ($2.000m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,374,333; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,825,667
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:18 pm

Garrison will get $4 mil + in FA
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Ossa on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:18 pm

Cr@zy871 wrote:
Ossa wrote:
Antonio wrote:Love the Buccigross feed on Espn where he says that he thinks this is going to lead to Malkin being traded inevitably. Yeah...you can't afford two guys if they both make 9 million a year......impossible to do apparently. :roll:


I don't disagree with you, but his contract is front loaded. The first 9 years of his contract are 10+ mil


That is what he will be paid salary wise, but his cap hit will only be $8.7 mil... Down the line when he is getting paid around $4 mil, his cap hit will still be $8.7 mil... You get me?


That makes sense. Thanks.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby no name on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:19 pm

I would have no trouble in paying Geno a true 8.7 contract for 12 years with no hike or decrease in years as i think he is worth it and his clean bill of health.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Hawkeynut on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:39 pm

That $8.7m cap hit 5 years from now is going to look so cheap. Crosby in his prime.... wow :shock:

I remember guys signing $5m cap hit deals back when the cap was brought in were super expensive. Now that seems like the norm for above average players, where it was the norm for superior players in 05/06.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby darkstar57 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:42 pm

Hawkeynut wrote:That $8.7m cap hit 5 years from now is going to look so cheap. Crosby in his prime.... wow :shock:

I remember guys signing $5m cap hit deals back when the cap was brought in were super expensive. Now that seems like the norm for above average players, where it was the norm for superior players in 05/06.


The cap is not going to go up and up, i think you have seen the cap has high as it will go for awhile, esp if the new CBA had a difference % of revenue for the players.
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Re: Crosby Re-Signed - 8.7 per 12 years!

Postby Hawkeynut on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:43 pm

darkstar57 wrote:The cap is not going to go up and up, i think you have seen the cap has high as it will go for awhile, esp if the new CBA had a difference % of revenue for the players.


I agree with you in the fact that it will not continue to go up nearly as fast as it has been in recent years, but if it even goes up 2% a year (which is reasonable) that cap hit will still look good.
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