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Re: Lockout

Postby pens_CT on Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:21 pm

MRandall25 wrote:Inb4 "WHY DIDNT THEY GET IT DONE"

Donnie wanted to leave early so he can get sh*tfaced tonight with Ron Hainsey
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Re: Lockout

Postby Lt. Dish on Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:47 pm

[quote="penny lane"]Image

march on NYC for hockey~
Spoiler:
or New Year's Eve in New York City! :P


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Lockout

Postby Lt. Dish on Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:49 pm

no name wrote:
Grunthy wrote:Could it be over? I think we are seeing the last negotiations.



Until you get to the ending part...

Section 14. part 3, sentence 4. Once said CBA is signed and all parties are in agreeence of said document. Gary Betman must kiss my hairy butt cheek. Then the deal is finalized.



Which butt cheek? Please send over a proposal and you'll hear back and may get your kiss by Valentine's Day. xo
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Re: Lockout

Postby ulf on Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:22 pm

There was a comment that this offer is much shorter than the owners'. In a length of reading sense; low double digit # of pages vs 300.
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Re: Lockout

Postby WhoDaresWins on Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:29 pm

We appear to have a date now. A point of no return as Chris Botta called it.

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
As expected, Bettman confirms NHL Point of No Return: January 11. Good.


Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
Gary Bettman confirmed a deal has to be done by January 11th.
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Re: Lockout

Postby shafnutz05 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:21 pm

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Re: Lockout

Postby Pitt87 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:16 pm

ulf wrote:There was a comment that this offer is much shorter than the owners'. In a length of reading sense; low double digit # of pages vs 300.


So... should we read as an incomplete response -- which would be contrary to what owners asked for, but expected from the Fehr's -- or mostly agree with NHL offer and only have key items to address?
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Re: Lockout

Postby penny lane on Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:20 pm

us fiscal agreement reached before the nhl... there is still time for this to happen in 2012!
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Re: Lockout

Postby skullman80 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:25 pm

Pitt87 wrote:
ulf wrote:There was a comment that this offer is much shorter than the owners'. In a length of reading sense; low double digit # of pages vs 300.


So... should we read as an incomplete response -- which would be contrary to what owners asked for, but expected from the Fehr's -- or mostly agree with NHL offer and only have key items to address?

I would say the latter actuaIly. I read that bettmam said the pa gave a comprehensive proposal and they wanted to look it over tonight.
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Re: Lockout

Postby skullman80 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:27 pm

Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl

Gary Bettman outside office to talk to media. #tsn

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris

Gary Bettman says talks should resume by noon tomorrow.

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN

#CBA NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said NHL in process of reviewing PA's counter-offer. Plans to talk to PA in am, possibly meet by midday

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN

#CBA Also declined to characterize union's offer. Both sides tight-lipped[/QUOTE]
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Re: Lockout

Postby skullman80 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:29 pm

Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl

Gary Bettman outside office to talk to media. #tsn

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris

Gary Bettman says talks should resume by noon tomorrow.

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN

#CBA NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said NHL in process of reviewing PA's counter-offer. Plans to talk to PA in am, possibly meet by midday

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN

#CBA Also declined to characterize union's offer. Both sides tight-lipped
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Re: Lockout

Postby skullman80 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:32 pm

bettman tells reporters: “The (NHLPA) have come back with a comprehensive response, which is why we need some time to analyze it.” @NHL

https://twitter.com/nydnrangers/status/285879313222475776
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Re: Lockout

Postby Pitt87 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:53 pm

skullman80 wrote:
Pitt87 wrote:
ulf wrote:There was a comment that this offer is much shorter than the owners'. In a length of reading sense; low double digit # of pages vs 300.


So... should we read as an incomplete response -- which would be contrary to what owners asked for, but expected from the Fehr's -- or mostly agree with NHL offer and only have key items to address?

I would say the latter actuaIly. I read that bettmam said the pa gave a comprehensive proposal and they wanted to look it over tonight.


Good news... first time there hasn't been a disagreement on approach, so that sounds like a bargaining mode.
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Re: Lockout

Postby FreeCandy44 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:52 am

So today = #podiumwatch?
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Re: Lockout

Postby MWB on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:07 pm

WhoDaresWins wrote:We appear to have a date now. A point of no return as Chris Botta called it.

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
As expected, Bettman confirms NHL Point of No Return: January 11. Good.


Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
Gary Bettman confirmed a deal has to be done by January 11th.


Any chance it happens before January 11 and the season starts before January 19? If a deal is reached today (doubtful), would they extend training camp or start the season sooner?
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Re: Lockout

Postby Gaucho on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:10 pm

Expecting a deal today might be overly optimistic, but seeing as most of the players have at least kept themselves in shape, there's probably no need for an extendend camp. Molinari twittered that Crosby would like 2 exhibiton games, though.
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Re: Lockout

Postby Kovy27 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:29 pm

MWB wrote:
WhoDaresWins wrote:We appear to have a date now. A point of no return as Chris Botta called it.

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
As expected, Bettman confirms NHL Point of No Return: January 11. Good.


Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
Gary Bettman confirmed a deal has to be done by January 11th.


Any chance it happens before January 11 and the season starts before January 19? If a deal is reached today (doubtful), would they extend training camp or start the season sooner?


If they get a deal done today, they could start camp on Saturday...go one week and then play a 50 game schedule.

I hope this CBA is 10 years+.
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Re: Lockout

Postby Grunthy on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:42 pm

Are they supposed to have a meeting today?
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Re: Lockout

Postby Gaucho on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:44 pm

Yes, but 5 pm at the aerlist accrding to LeBrun and Dreger.
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Re: Lockout

Postby no name on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:50 pm

FreeCandy44 wrote:So today = #podiumwatch?


Still think its to early for that... I am so sick of all the drama both sides have given its hard to feel positive like somehting might get done. If the NHLPA only handed over 15 or so pages it doesn't sound like they re-wrote it but just changed a few parts. But who know what kind of changes they made to a few of thoes parts.
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Re: Lockout

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:59 pm

Kovy27 wrote:I hope this CBA is 10 years+.


I'd say it tops out at the owners proposed 10 with an opt out after 8. The players want less than that and the owners have put that out on the table. So the one that is signed is probably an 8 year agreement.
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Re: Lockout

Postby no name on Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:31 pm

Right about now i would be preparing a boat load of wings, waiting for my buds and their wives and kids to show up for a winter classic "new years day" party. No classic, no party. save the money. But would rather spend it and be watching hockey with them today.
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Re: Lockout

Postby tfrizz on Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:00 pm

Catching up on Twitter and the insiders sound very optimistic that a deal will be reached by the end of the week.
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Re: Lockout

Postby count2infinity on Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:41 pm

I can't trust Hockeyy Insiderr after the trade deadline last year, but he seems optimistic.
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Re: Lockout

Postby itissteeltime on Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:50 pm

Yeah he's hard to trust. But, he has these fine little details that make me believe he's either great at lying, or he really does have some inside knowledge. "Christmas break for players will be at least 3 days." If that turns out to be true, he's got some inside info. Hope he's right!
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