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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby mikey287 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:02 pm

To be fair, Crosby has been a notable positive to this club for every second that he's been in uniform.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby MRandall25 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:05 pm

seabiscuit wrote:So if we traded crosby for ryan whitney, you cannot say anything until October 12th?


Apples and oranges, unless Michalek is the greatest defenseman ever to play the game (which he's not)
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby seabiscuit on Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:23 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
seabiscuit wrote:So if we traded crosby for ryan whitney, you cannot say anything until October 12th?


Apples and oranges, unless Michalek is the greatest defenseman ever to play the game (which he's not)


You cannot judge whether he is or not until October 12th. That was your point.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:28 pm

seabiscuit wrote:"we'll see" - but it doesnt look too good thus far.


I don't think it looks bad or good. I think you're being a little premature.

The Penguins are not like the Rangers or Wild in the respect that they didn't need to add serious parts.

The Penguins traded away a weak link and cap killer in Michalek. IMO, the Penguins really only need to tweak their line-up.

So you say things don't look good thus far with that freed up space not being utilized, but Shero doesn't have to be in a rush.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby MRandall25 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:08 pm

seabiscuit wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
seabiscuit wrote:So if we traded crosby for ryan whitney, you cannot say anything until October 12th?


Apples and oranges, unless Michalek is the greatest defenseman ever to play the game (which he's not)


You cannot judge whether he is or not until October 12th. That was your point.


You are arguing something completely different than I was. That was not my point at all.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby topshelf on Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:48 am

Nizzy wrote:Pouliot will never play 1 nhl game with the organization.

Write it down mikey.


LOL... BUT FORSBERG'Z GONNA WIN TEH HART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby columbia on Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:50 am

Nizzy wrote:Pouliot will never play 1 nhl game with the organization.


Ok.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby Gaucho on Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:06 am

Crap, I just ordered his jersey.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby dman66 on Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:08 am

JS© wrote:2007: Dominic Moore for the pick that became CP-Z.


I'll go with this one, not because of the return or anything, but just because Moore killed the Pens in 2010 with the Habs and 2011 with Tampa in the playoffs. Was so happy he went to the western conference this year...
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby mikey287 on Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:03 pm

Found it a little strange that Moore didn't work out here, I thought he'd be a fine addition...
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby Factorial on Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:08 pm

Gaucho, you should just do a name change on your Roche jersey:


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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby columbia on Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:13 pm

And promptly FedEx it to Nizzy.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby dman66 on Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:40 pm

mikey287 wrote:Found it a little strange that Moore didn't work out here, I thought he'd be a fine addition...


I don't get how he bounces from team to team. He's a serviceable player, never makes a huge amount, and I've never heard or read any issues about him in the room. Yet every year he is looking for work and bouncing from team to team
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby mikey287 on Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:46 pm

dman66 wrote:
mikey287 wrote:Found it a little strange that Moore didn't work out here, I thought he'd be a fine addition...


I don't get how he bounces from team to team. He's a serviceable player, never makes a huge amount, and I've never heard or read any issues about him in the room. Yet every year he is looking for work and bouncing from team to team


Present day Mike Sillinger.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby Rugbymuffin on Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:03 pm

demondg1 wrote:Ponikroncosky


+1.

I think I would have added more to the team if I was pushed out on the ice, fell down, and farted.

I think if your took "Ponikroncosky" and Paul Martin and put them in a collision course, they would blow out their knees trying to get out of each other's way.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby Froggy on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:20 pm

not sure how the poni trade was bad considering we won it. caputi was a turd prospect who STILL isn't close to cracking a nhl lineup 2 years later, and they even took skoula off our hands to clear a roster spot. poni was undoubtedly a bust, but we didn't give up anything of value for him
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby HockeyDaddy on Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:28 am

mikey287 wrote:Found it a little strange that Moore didn't work out here, I thought he'd be a fine addition...

I agree. IFRC, Moore wanted out because he wasn't satisfied with his role. I always liked him and thought that he was a great fourth liner that could move up to the third if needed.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby mikey287 on Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:17 am

HockeyDaddy wrote:
mikey287 wrote:Found it a little strange that Moore didn't work out here, I thought he'd be a fine addition...

I agree. IFRC, Moore wanted out because he wasn't satisfied with his role. I always liked him and thought that he was a great fourth liner that could move up to the third if needed.


Yes, I recall him requesting out as well, and Shero accomodated as he always has (very good with man management).
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby JS© on Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:04 pm

and Moore is still a free agent, which is somewhat surprising.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby mikey287 on Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:15 pm

JS© wrote:and Moore is still a free agent, which is somewhat surprising.


Wife has rare illness, isn't signing with anyone yet until it's clearer what her future is, AIUI.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby Rylan on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:40 pm

Yea, Moore's wife has a rare kidney cancer IIRC.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby NeddieVedder on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:36 pm

HockeyDaddy wrote:
mikey287 wrote:Found it a little strange that Moore didn't work out here, I thought he'd be a fine addition...

I agree. IFRC, Moore wanted out because he wasn't satisfied with his role. I always liked him and thought that he was a great fourth liner that could move up to the third if needed.


Wasn't the deal basically that Talbot's emergence left him with most of the duties they'd envisioned for Moore, bumping him from 3rd line center to 4th? Christensen too as that was his one banner year with like 20 goals and The Shootout Move.

Lines when Moore was shipped out were something like

Malone-Crosby-Recchi
Staal-Malkin-Ouellet
Christensen-Talbot-Armstrong
Ruutu-Moore-Petrovicky

grr wingers for Sid and Geno grr etc etc
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby HockeyDaddy on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:49 pm

Not sure if this article has been posted already, but I think that it provides a good look at the personal side of the Z trade and the North American atmosphere that has been developed in Pittsburgh.
http://thehockeywriters.com/pittsburgh- ... europeans/
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby BurghersAndDogsSports on Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:28 pm

HockeyDaddy wrote:Not sure if this article has been posted already, but I think that it provides a good look at the personal side of the Z trade and the North American atmosphere that has been developed in Pittsburgh.
http://thehockeywriters.com/pittsburgh- ... europeans/



Cliff notes: pens have north American players, playing a quasi Europe/80's style that doesn't fit the north American player or those who were built for it but run off a Czech who plays a north American style because he makes jokes and his wife has no friends.
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Re: Worst Post Lockout Pens Trade

Postby jimjom on Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:29 pm

BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:
HockeyDaddy wrote:Not sure if this article has been posted already, but I think that it provides a good look at the personal side of the Z trade and the North American atmosphere that has been developed in Pittsburgh.
http://thehockeywriters.com/pittsburgh- ... europeans/



Cliff notes: pens have north American players, playing a quasi Europe/80's style that doesn't fit the north American player or those who were built for it but run off a Czech who plays a north American style because he makes jokes and his wife has no friends.


Agree. Article grasps at straws. Also it's inaccurate:

Take a look at the Penguins’ current roster. Craig Adams was born in Brunei but raised in Calgary. That leaves Evgeni Malkin as the only skater born outside of North America.

What about Vokoun? I know he's not a "skater" but why ignore the fact that he's not North American? Oh, to make a silly point, that's why. Not sure why everybody loves Colligan so much.
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