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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:13 pm

Alright. I think I have both my picks set.

For the last pick of the 3rd round, my still-unnamed team would like to select Center Mike Bullard.

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Ranked 8th in goals scored in Penguins history, he'll provide a high-scoring center to go with Jean Pronovost.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:18 pm

And for the 1st pick of Round 4, I am pleased to select #82, Martin Straka

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9th in team history in goals scored, 10th in points. All-around good guy. Versatile as well.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby meow on Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:06 pm

does mark recchi cover his bald head of the ice and then on the ice when his helmet flips of his balding head is exposed ala Newman asking to try on a new hat recently bought from a flea market while trying to pick up a woman complimenting the hat

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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby the riddler on Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:22 pm

Something interesting I noticed, at least I think it is, is the years that the elite d-men of this organization have played here. Murphy, Coffey, Carlyle were all great d-men and only stuck around for 4 or 5 years. Gonchar also only played here for 5 years, not saying he is in that same class but he was the no. 1 guy for those years. I guess it might be the nature of the position and that there are only 6 spots available(younger guys come in and push out older guys). It makes you wonder how much longer a guy like Letang will be here, who is ready to begin his 6th full season.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:25 pm

the riddler wrote:Something interesting I noticed, at least I think it is, is the years that the elite d-men of this organization have played here. Murphy, Coffey, Carlyle were all great d-men and only stuck around for 4 or 5 years. Gonchar also only played here for 5 years, not saying he is in that same class but he was the no. 1 guy for those years. I guess it might be the nature of the position and that there are only 6 spots available(younger guys come in and push out older guys). It makes you wonder how much longer a guy like Letang will be here, who is ready to begin his 6th full season.


The difference is, none of the guys you mentioned (aside from Letang, obviously) started their careers with the Pens. Carlyle was a Maple Leaf for 2 years, Coffey won 4 Cups with the Oilers, Murphy was on the Kings and Caps, Gonchar the Bruins and Caps...

Little different when you have a guy who starts his career with the team.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby the riddler on Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:35 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
the riddler wrote:Something interesting I noticed, at least I think it is, is the years that the elite d-men of this organization have played here. Murphy, Coffey, Carlyle were all great d-men and only stuck around for 4 or 5 years. Gonchar also only played here for 5 years, not saying he is in that same class but he was the no. 1 guy for those years. I guess it might be the nature of the position and that there are only 6 spots available(younger guys come in and push out older guys). It makes you wonder how much longer a guy like Letang will be here, who is ready to begin his 6th full season.


The difference is, none of the guys you mentioned (aside from Letang, obviously) started their careers with the Pens. Carlyle was a Maple Leaf for 2 years, Coffey won 4 Cups with the Oilers, Murphy was on the Kings and Caps, Gonchar the Bruins and Caps...

Little different when you have a guy who starts his career with the team.


Yes that is a good point. He assumed the no. 1 spot I guess you could argue in 2010-2011. Given franchise history he might only last 2 or 3 more years. His contract expires in two years. I don't know exactly the point I'm trying to make here, but it seems that it is rare for d-men to stick around in that no. 1 spot for longer than 4 or 5 years. There are exceptions and it probably has more to do with the individual player (how good he is, whether he wants to change cities, who is behind him in the organization).
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby Mr. Colby on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:12 pm

Meow swoops in with another outstanding pick.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:13 pm

I almost drafted Recchi. It was between him and Bullard. I knew I wanted Straka regardless.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby meow on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:32 pm

Bullard over Recchi? Please elaborate...
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:33 pm

meow wrote:Bullard over Recchi? Please elaborate...


Numbers game (stats and position-wise). There's a lot more serviceable wingers in Pens history than there are centers, IMO.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby meow on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:35 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
meow wrote:Bullard over Recchi? Please elaborate...


Numbers game (stats and position-wise). There's a lot more serviceable wingers in Pens history than there are centers, IMO.

Even knowing you are going to grab Straka, also a center, with the next pick?
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:37 pm

meow wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
meow wrote:Bullard over Recchi? Please elaborate...


Numbers game (stats and position-wise). There's a lot more serviceable wingers in Pens history than there are centers, IMO.

Even knowing you are going to grab Straka, also a center, with the next pick?


I have 2 good centers and can still pick up a winger close to his caliber later. Just let me do my thing.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby meow on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:40 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
meow wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
meow wrote:Bullard over Recchi? Please elaborate...


Numbers game (stats and position-wise). There's a lot more serviceable wingers in Pens history than there are centers, IMO.

Even knowing you are going to grab Straka, also a center, with the next pick?


I have 2 good centers and can still pick up a winger close to his caliber later. Just let me do my thing.

Strong down the middle is always a good strategy. Do your thing, sir.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:42 pm

I also took into account the later years of Recchi and the locker room issues.

I also found this thread on Google: http://letsgopens.com/scripts/phpBB3/vi ... 92&p=15959

My God.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby meow on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:43 pm

MRandall25 wrote:I also took into account the later years of Recchi and the locker room issues.

Later years here or later years Boston?
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:46 pm

meow wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:I also took into account the later years of Recchi and the locker room issues.

Later years here or later years Boston?


I edited it. Here, obviously. We're talking about Pens careers.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby Rylan on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:22 pm

With the 21st pick overall, the Degloving Kings select from Taschereau, Quebec:

Pierre Larouche

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1x Team MVP
1x 50 goals in a season
1x 100 pts in a season
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby meow on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:57 pm

MRandall25 wrote:I also took into account the later years of Recchi and the locker room issues.

I also found this thread on Google: viewtopic.php?t=1392&p=15959

My God.

There is a whole lot of anger in the thread. Wowzers
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:59 pm

meow wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:I also took into account the later years of Recchi and the locker room issues.

I also found this thread on Google: viewtopic.php?t=1392&p=15959

My God.

There is a whole lot of anger in the thread. Wowzers


Makes the Lockout thread look like sunshine and rainbows.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 3)

Postby mikey287 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:32 pm

Good progress here while I was away...some interesting picks. I was hoping to make Straka my second line center and thought if that fails I can go with Larouche who has a very good peak for this level. We'll come to find out in the bio that I make for him, he and Pronovost were on the same page with regard to the destitude of this Pittsburgh team in the late 70's...

My pick is a player that I was really hoping wouldn't get snatched up at this point, he's certainly one of the premier defensive defensemen of the 1970's and in a time where some defensive guys didn't get recognized (Orr had a huge effect), this guy got a good amount of recognition and is still regarded as being unheralded. This guy is a lot closer to Larry Murphy territory than you think...

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Dave Burrows, D
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 4)

Postby Gaucho on Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:43 pm

Need a few minutes to consider my options. Hey, did you know Aleksey Morozov is 18th all-time for the Pens in games played?
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 4)

Postby Gaucho on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:17 pm

Ok, I was considering several players, but in the end I decided to go with the guy who made the biggest impact, no pun intended, in a relatively short tenure:

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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 4)

Postby Gaucho on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:57 pm

Looks like we have all the time in the world for this now.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 4)

Postby mikey287 on Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:21 am

I like the Ulf pick, logged some pretty major minutes for us while he was here. High on my radar. Not the best player available I don't believe, but a premium on defensive guys exists after Murphy and Burrows were picked I think.

Got sidetracked tonight with another history project that ran long, hopefully I'll get a chance over the weekend to make some more bios...
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 4)

Postby Sarcastic on Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:12 am

mikey, can you put up team lineups as they're being constructed so they were easy to read. not just a sequence of who selected who.
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