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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby Rylan on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:30 pm

Depres for Clutterbuck!
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby JS© on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:35 pm

The Current One wrote:http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Brad-Ratgen/Wild-Modeling-the-Blues-in-Their-Re-Build--Trade-Rumor-from-Russo/78/48824#.UQV8O6UrzlI

I think Despres is going to be a good player eventually, but this would be a good trade for the Pens were it to happen. Setoguchi would immediately fill a Pens need as a top-six winger, and his grit/size would be great for Malkin's line.



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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby mikey287 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:39 pm

Rylan wrote:Depres for Clutterbuck!


Yeah, the Wild would love that. Just like we'd love Nick Schultz for Tyler Kennedy...
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby murphydump55 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:41 pm

This isn't a rumor, this is simply connecting the dots. Russo claims that the Pens have soured on Despres and are seeking a top 6 winger. He mentions that the Wild need a puck moving dman.....how this becomes a trade rumor because a reporter made it up is beyond me.

Shero looks absolutely horrible for losing Strait in order to keep Despres up, who is now a healthy scratch....especially since he could have sent Despres down. The part that irks me is that Bortuzzo has probably been their best dman over the last 2 years and doesn't get a sniff to start the season. Despres stinks it up this year, has a horrible camp, and they keep him up and play him!! All the while losing Strait because of it!

He better pull off a decent trade soon and HCDB better figure something out or else this mistake riddled season could get uglier by the day.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby KG on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:42 pm

What about a Despres ++ package for Iginla?

Calgary finally may rebuild and we could give them some prospects/picks.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby pens_CT on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:46 pm

KG wrote:What about a Despres ++ package for Iginla?

Calgary finally may rebuild and we could give them some prospects/picks.

Do you really want to trade Despres for a 35 year old who will be a UFA at the end of the season? Unless he is willing to take a much lower salary than his current 7.0 mil deal you have no chance to resign him.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby MRandall25 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:49 pm

Are people still complaining about Strait?
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby SolidSnake on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:50 pm

I'm still mad about Moulson, Johnson, Strait. Hell, I'm still mad about Hedberg
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby KG on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:51 pm

pens_CT wrote:
KG wrote:What about a Despres ++ package for Iginla?

Calgary finally may rebuild and we could give them some prospects/picks.

Do you really want to trade Despres for a 35 year old who will be a UFA at the end of the season? Unless he is willing to take a much lower salary than his current 7.0 mil deal you have no chance to resign him.


If he would sign a contract extension for 3 years or so for less to play with Sid and go for a cup, yes I would make the deal.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby murphydump55 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:51 pm

MRandall25 wrote:Are people still complaining about Strait?


With the way he's been playing on the Island..yes. Especially since we lost him in order to keep a player that could have been sent down waiver free, that is now a healthy scratch. Yeah, I'd say people have a reason to complain.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby KG on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:51 pm

MRandall25 wrote:Are people still complaining about Strait?


There was an article in Newsday about how well Strait is playing with the Islanders :)
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby murphydump55 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:52 pm

SolidSnake wrote:I'm still mad about Moulson, Johnson, Strait. Hell, I'm still mad about Hedberg


Johnson meh.

Moulson and Strait sure. What about Muzzin?
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby KG on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:52 pm

I'd like to see Bortuzzo play a game already. He should be playing ahead of Lovejoy...
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby pens_CT on Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:59 pm

KG wrote:
pens_CT wrote:
KG wrote:What about a Despres ++ package for Iginla?

Calgary finally may rebuild and we could give them some prospects/picks.

Do you really want to trade Despres for a 35 year old who will be a UFA at the end of the season? Unless he is willing to take a much lower salary than his current 7.0 mil deal you have no chance to resign him.


If he would sign a contract extension for 3 years or so for less to play with Sid and go for a cup, yes I would make the deal.

I doubt he is signing here for around 4 mil or so, which is what he would have to do.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby BurghersAndDogsSports on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:28 pm

pens_CT wrote:
KG wrote:
pens_CT wrote:
KG wrote:What about a Despres ++ package for Iginla?

Calgary finally may rebuild and we could give them some prospects/picks.

Do you really want to trade Despres for a 35 year old who will be a UFA at the end of the season? Unless he is willing to take a much lower salary than his current 7.0 mil deal you have no chance to resign him.


If he would sign a contract extension for 3 years or so for less to play with Sid and go for a cup, yes I would make the deal.

I doubt he is signing here for around 4 mil or so, which is what he would have to do.


Wrong! Remember Zach Parise signed here for a huge discount to play with Sid and for a cup!

On two topics going on:

Strait - I normally am more patient with roster mistakes in the NHL because it seems more goes into it than other sports that gm's have to balance. But as of now I'm pretty sure the Strait complaints are valid. It's only been 4 games so let's not jump off a bridge but we dumped him to keep a guy who we were aren't playing and also was the only one we can send down to WBS risk free. It doesn't help Strait plays a position of pretty dire need.

Despres - if the pens have soured on him, and he isn't getting playing time because he has been awful I'm not so sure this is the best time to trade him, especially since he already had a bad year in WBS. I hope a GM gives us a top 6 forward for once top prospect who is floundering.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:42 pm

If there's one winger I think the Penguins should be seeking in a trade it would be Glencross. He's been rumored as a target before and the player I'd most want on the Penguins. I'm sure TONS of rumors will circulate: Ryan, Setoguchi, Iginla and plenty more I'm sure. I'd pull off a Glencross/Despres trade in a heartbeat. I'm sure most people here would view that has an overpayment for Glencross, but I don't.

Glencross is EXACTLY what Malkin needs on his side. Glencross would be Malkin's Dupuis, but IMO higher offensive potential. He's big, physical, got a solid two-way game and just an overall solid player. I really don't know what Calgary's position is right now on their players. Glencross is currently the top point-getter for Calgary with a low cap-hit. If he were available, I'd pull the trigger.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby Rylan on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:45 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Rylan wrote:Depres for Clutterbuck!


Yeah, the Wild would love that. Just like we'd love Nick Schultz for Tyler Kennedy...


Clutterbuck>>>>>>>>Kennedy
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby Nizzy on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:51 pm

Crosby lost his career 1000 point winger his rookie year:

Spoiler:
Andy Hilbert.


More points playing alongside Crosby in the regular season than Hossa.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby mikey287 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:54 pm

Rylan wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
Rylan wrote:Depres for Clutterbuck!


Yeah, the Wild would love that. Just like we'd love Nick Schultz for Tyler Kennedy...


Clutterbuck>>>>>>>>Kennedy


I think you're really overstating that, to be honest. Clutterbuck is a very average third line player or a very good fourth liner.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby Rylan on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:57 pm

Name earns points for me.

In all seriousness he has dropped off. When he first came out I thought he would be a fantastic 3rd line grinder. I wouldn't trade Depres for him but he does fit the bottom six mold significantly better than Kennedy. And that's not a knock on Kennedy.
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby scals37 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:58 pm

Nizzy wrote:Crosby lost his career 1000 point winger his rookie year:

Spoiler:
Andy Hilbert.


More points playing alongside Crosby in the regular season than Hossa.

I never understood why they just let him move on, sure he probably wasn't the permanant solution.. but he was cheap
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby KG on Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:20 pm

pens_CT wrote:
KG wrote:
pens_CT wrote:
KG wrote:What about a Despres ++ package for Iginla?

Calgary finally may rebuild and we could give them some prospects/picks.

Do you really want to trade Despres for a 35 year old who will be a UFA at the end of the season? Unless he is willing to take a much lower salary than his current 7.0 mil deal you have no chance to resign him.


If he would sign a contract extension for 3 years or so for less to play with Sid and go for a cup, yes I would make the deal.

I doubt he is signing here for around 4 mil or so, which is what he would have to do.


Unless Despres is projected to be Letang part deux by the Pens brass, then I would deal him for Iginla and sign him for 3 years $12Mill tomorrow...If the Pens got Iginla they would win the cup one of those 3 years....just this posters personal opinion...
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby Nizzy on Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:49 pm

KG wrote:I'd like to see Bortuzzo play a game already. He should be playing ahead of Lovejoy...



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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby Nizzy on Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:50 pm

we ned seetewgooochee shiro
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Re: Despres for Setoguchi?

Postby bhaw on Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:22 am

Since his huge year with the Sharks, his production keeps dropping. If you are going to trade a guy at his all time low, in terms of value, why would you give up your most NHL ready prospect?
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