1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby slappybrown on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:28 pm

Godric wrote:
slappybrown wrote:
Godric wrote:There was instigation. Carkner popped Cooke twice. Carkner isn't going to willingly go with Engo, so Engo would had to throw the gloves and start popping Carkner

Yea I don't think this is correct but whatever


I would ask "What part do you think is incorrect?" but I don't really care

That's pretty much how I feel
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby Bioshock on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:29 pm

sniper wrote:The only players who looked like they showed up tonight were Despres and Jeffrey.



And i'll bet both are scratched next game. Sigh...
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby sil on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:31 pm

slappybrown wrote:
Godric wrote:
slappybrown wrote:Yea I don't think this is correct but whatever

I would ask "What part do you think is incorrect?" but I don't really care

That's pretty much how I feel


Okay, if Slappybrown is playing the part of Shero, and Godric is playing Bylsma, I think they just did a perfect rendition of the GM/coach postgame conversation tonight.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby slappybrown on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:33 pm

In that case Godric you're fired
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:33 pm

There's a dependency you're forgetting here Godric...

The presence of an instigator relies solely on the presence of a fight
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby FreeCandy44 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:36 pm

Did the filet o fish video make an appearance? If it didnt....you know why they lost tonight.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby NashvilleCat on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:36 pm

A 4-1 loss at home to an average or below average team. You could slip this game film in with any of the Pens of the early 1980's and it would not be out of character.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby The U on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:37 pm

Our Powerplay has cost us a playoff series in 2 of the past 3 seasons. It hasn't been addressed.

Last season Shero thought the defense was good enough that he didnt have to add at the deadline. This offseason Shero give Michalek away for free and thinks the D is good enough to start the new year.

Shero and Bylsma want to be hard to play against but this team has been just the opposite. Most forwards are under 6 feet tall, no cycling, out-hit in all but one game, no dump ins, no energy, few fights. Our entire system and draft picks are filled with short/small puck moving defensemen.

Our focus seems to be turning away from grit and tenacity and energy. What are we replacing it with? What direction is this roster going in?

In a few years Maata, Despres, Letang, Morrow, Pouliot are your top five defense? That would be the softest blue line in the NHL.

I worry about our lack of size, toughness, and energy. It used to be a staple when Shero arrived and now we are going in the opposite direction.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby DelPen on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:39 pm

The defensemen are fine. Team defense which breeds offense is pathetic.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby offsides on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:40 pm

Out shot 38 to 24.
Our PP 0 for 3
Their PP 2 for 2

What else needs said? Terrible special teams and even strength. Other than that, we're fine.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby sniper on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:44 pm

offsides wrote:Out shot 38 to 24.
Our PP 0 for 3
Their PP 2 for 2

What else needs said? Terrible special teams and even strength. Other than that, we're fine.



Pens actually out shot them 38 to 24. Don't ask me how. I sure didn't see it.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby jmh470 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:45 pm

I'd say the biggest sin so far is that this team isn't much fun to watch. Sloppy plays made in a laborious, plodding system.

I doubt anything major happens. If it goes south, they'll probably write the season off because of its circumstances and try again come October.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby AlexPKeaton on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:46 pm

offsides wrote:Out shot 38 to 24.
Our PP 0 for 3
Their PP 2 for 2

What else needs said? Terrible special teams and even strength. Other than that, we're fine.


So as long as we can keep the game to 4-4 we are good! GET TO OUR GAME!!!
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby Metalmike on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:49 pm

Didnt the pens look the same right before MT was fired? They Lost to the Leafs 7-2, i remember they also stopped playing for him or at least his system wasnt working out anymore. DB has tweaked it here and there but it's made things even worse. DB changed whatever it was that was making the Pens win games as they looked great doing so.
Now they even look bad when they win and that makes losing even worse obviously.

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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby pens_srq on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:51 pm

Attitude, emotion, execution. The things that get you to your game.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby The Snapshot on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:52 pm

The team was playing patiently ala Ottawa until Flower makes Cezikas look like an NHL player. They are fragile right now. There is just one thing after another and the best players aren't even average.

I know everyone wants to analyze a different angle as to what it wrong, but to me it is everything. The stars need to pull us out of this rut right now though and change the momentum.

That could be Malkin exploding, Crosby doing it, maybe Neal getting an HT or Fleury or Vokoun standing on their head. I don't think this is systems. It is execution and a complete lack of team confidence.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby Eismann on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:54 pm

Metalmike wrote:Didnt the pens look the same right before MT was fired? They Lost to the Leafs 7-2, i remember they also stopped playing for him or at least his system wasnt working out anymore. DB has tweaked it here and there but it's made things even worse. DB changed whatever it was that was making the Pens win games as they looked great doing so.
Now they even look bad when they win and that makes losing even worse obviously.

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That's so true. I know that db is not schooling them to abandon their zone and go all random. He even was quoted a couple days ago saying that they to break out as a unit much more, but there's none of that. Compounded with the general lack of sharpness, it makes me wonder if he's on teh block.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby DelPen on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:00 am

Best success last year:

24-87-48
14-71-18
9-11-26
25-46-27

So we swap Sullivan with Glass, Staal with Sutter, move Dupuis to RW and success.

Not sure why those lines were dumped in March after winning a lot
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby BurghThing on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:01 am

So when does Sid get over his concussions?
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby BurghThing on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:04 am

DelPen wrote:Best success last year:

24-87-48
14-71-18
9-11-26
25-46-27

So we swap Sullivan with Glass, Staal with Sutter, move Dupuis to RW and success.

Not sure why those lines were dumped in March after winning a lot


Not sure why they were dumped? Disco can't keep a line together from shift to shift, you expect him to keep a line together since March?
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby offsides on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:05 am

sniper wrote:
offsides wrote:Out shot 38 to 24.
Our PP 0 for 3
Their PP 2 for 2

What else needs said? Terrible special teams and even strength. Other than that, we're fine.



Pens actually out shot them 38 to 24. Don't ask me how. I sure didn't see it.


Wow,you're right. I missed that totally, and it sure didn't seem that way.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby The Snapshot on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:06 am

BurghThing wrote:So when does Sid get over his concussions?


Thank goodness Sid came back and torched the league down the stretch last year, because if these were the first 6 games of his comeback there would a lot of concern. Maybe he's just loafing now that he has the lifetime deal.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby The Snapshot on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:08 am

Sid left his game at the bargaining table, Geno left his in the KHL, Letang left his on the two cross-Atlantic flights and the rest of them just stink.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby offsides on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:09 am

BurghThing wrote:So when does Sid get over his concussions?


Yeah, wondering that myself. I heard all these great things about the amazing stuff he was doing in pretend practices. Maybe real competition is a little tougher than our D in practices.
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Re: 1/29/13 Islanders v. Penguins- Official Game Thread

Postby Sarcastic on Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:09 am

The is exactly the way things happend entire last year against quick/tenacious teams like the Islanders or Ottawa.

Nobody should be surprised by this.

This team is severely underskilled, once you get past the top 3 and Letang. We lack size, we lack grit, we are small and we are soft. We don't have enough support scoring behind the top 3 and maybe Dupuis sometimes.

I've been trying to say the same thing since last season. If Crosby or Malkin are off, this team's chances of winning are slim.

On defense, we still don't have a pp quarterback and I don't think anybody can shoot from there, not even Letang - or he refuses, I don't know, so teams collapse around own goalie (Flyers) and aren't worried about shots coming in from the point.

There are so many wrong things with this lineup, I'm pretty pissed off. Same crap as last year. Maybe we'll go on a good streak for a bit, but I know I'd change things going into the playoffs or we're risking getting kicked out again.

We have problems with big physical teams and quick, skilled, or even semi-skilled ones.

I would add another scorer. I would add 2 nasty agitators/hitters with size. I would add an offensive defenseman who can shoot and run the powerplay. And I would add one huge D like Hal Gill.

This small, not too skilled, lazy team is making things pretty lame to watch. We are, really, the opposite of the team we used to be.
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