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All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby MarioLives on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:20 am

the Pens have a little bit of tweaking to do. This was not a horrible end all weekend for the Pens. In fact, I think this can be used as a positive to build off of. Maybe it is good that they got beat so soundly the last two games. It shows where the Pens need to make some adjustments.

1. The Penalty kill was outstanding for the most part, they just took to many penalties. That can be fixed.

2. Their powerplay moved the puck well, and performed pretty well. It has gotten better each week.

3. They do need to work on their even strength scoring. This is an area that needs to be worked on. They seem to be creating chances, they just need to find the back of the net. IMO they need to dump the puck in more and bang some bodies, create turnovers and get shots on goal. Right now they all want to carry the puck through 3 players and it is not working.

The weekend was not the end all, if played correctly it could be the beginning......
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:24 am

That Dan Bylsma sucks again. :pop:
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby littlemoonboot on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:36 am

The Devils have won their 5th straight so they're kind of on one of those streaks where they're playing well and getting the bounces, and it seemed like the opposite for the Pens. I don't believe the Pens are any worse of a team...there's moves and adjustments to be done but I'll leave that up to the GMs and y'all to talk about, I'm just typing this because I'm bored.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby penny lane on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:41 am

The Pens with playing with emotion is 100% better than trying to be detached; like last night.
I'll never take Kris Letang for granted.
The team/coaches need a day away from the ice. As Badger Bob would say, go see a movie.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby lemieuxReturns on Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:46 am

I agree. I have been more upset after some penguins wins than i have been after last nights loss. The penguins did not play all that bad, it was just a case of the devils playing their system perfectly. That happens sometimes.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Gaucho on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:07 am

I thought it was painfully obvious those last two games how much we miss Tanger and Niskanen. Not so much for their defense but for their passing in transition. Against a team like the Devils you need that more than ever.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby darkstar57 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:31 am

You have to give credit to the devils too, they lost Parise and just keep plugging along like nothing happened. They will be a tough team to play in the playoffs

Also, i think malkin in on the verge of breaking out in a big way, you could see it against the devils
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby BurghThing on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:35 am

darkstar57 wrote:You have to give credit to the devils too, they lost Parise and just keep plugging along like nothing happened. They will be a tough team to play in the playoffs

Also, i think malkin in on the verge of breaking out in a big way, you could see it against the devils


All he needs is for Disco to stop sending him out shorthanded every shift.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Pavel Bure on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:00 pm

Pens game plan: carry the puck up the right side if the ice, don't dump it in, 3 guys from the other team will converge on you and take the puck. Rinse, wash, repeat. And whatever you do don't hit anybody.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby guiner on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:08 pm

Gaucho wrote:I thought it was painfully obvious those last two games how much we miss Tanger and Niskanen. Not so much for their defense but for their passing in transition. Against a team like the Devils you need that more than ever.


The pens could never breakout, constantly bottled up. Meanwhile, NJ exited the zone without seeming to exert the slightest effort. Those guys are important, but something is also systematically wrong.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:11 pm

guiner wrote:
Gaucho wrote:I thought it was painfully obvious those last two games how much we miss Tanger and Niskanen. Not so much for their defense but for their passing in transition. Against a team like the Devils you need that more than ever.


The pens could never breakout, constantly bottled up. Meanwhile, NJ exited the zone without seeming to exert the slightest effort. Those guys are important, but something is also systematically wrong.


But there wasn't anything "systematically wrong" when we beat them 5-1 a week ago.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Fire0nice228 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:16 pm

Missing some key defensemen hurts on both sides of the puck and the Devils system was played perfectly. I feel like we could agree for the most part that the Pens are one of those teams that gets frustrated/impatient and gets away from their own system and try to do too much singlehandedly as each minute goes by, which just feeds the beast of teams like the Devils.

The Pens looked like a quick strike team not a puck possession team this weekend and that creates turnovers and chances for the 'wait and see' teams.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby 71Aj66ax87 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:28 pm

What it showed me is how much The Pens need a healthy Letang and Niskanen.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby The Snapshot on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:34 pm

We learned what we should have already known:

1) Letang and Niskanen take a lot of pressure off of our forwards in our own end.
2) This team will struggle when the offense is forced onto the sticks of anyone other than Crosby and Malkin

Number 2 is much easier to do for the opponent without Number 1 in place. This should be a concern come the playoffs, because the Devils approach every game like this in the regular season. For a comparison to the NFL - the Devils gameplan for every regular season game and most teams are not as focused on detail. Come the playoffs though, EVERY team gameplans.

I agree with the folks last night that were shining the light on Dupuis as an issue on Crosby's line. He is very streaky and at times every play seems to die on his stick as he mangles a play with his cement hands. That effectively kills Crosby's line and then all the focus can be on Malkin and Neal.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby RxBandit66 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:41 pm

This weekend showed us what we already know: when faced with any adversity, this is a .500 hockey team. With Letang out and Sid & Geno not producing, the rest of the players are easy to defend. The players tend to get easily frustrated, particularly the forwards, and take bad penalties that lead to goals. These are the same problems that have been emerging since the 2009 Cup, and they continue to be unresolved.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby C4 Row E on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:34 pm

Of the 3 games I attended this year, the Penguins have a combined 3 goals and have been outplayed/coached badly. I could think of a million things I could have spent $500-$600 on. Saturday and Sunday were a mirror image of one another and absolutely no adjustments were made. I'm tired of watching Crosby and Malkin skate in circles with the puck and turn it over. We have $10 million in cap space and STH are assured every year that the best product is being put on the ice. This teams needs a net front presence. When I'm paying these kinds of prices, I expect to see a much better product on the ice. I felt the same way after the playoffs the last 3 seasons. IT'S THE SAME RESULT. I can honestly see another 4/5 playoff matchup in the future and another early exit in the first round. I believe we will be seeing either the Rangers or Devils as the 4/5.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Pitt87 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:09 pm

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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:33 pm

Forgot...

Vokoun > Fleury
Crosby must have a concussion
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:49 pm

C4 Row E wrote:Of the 3 games I attended this year, the Penguins have a combined 3 goals and have been outplayed/coached badly. I could think of a million things I could have spent $500-$600 on. Saturday and Sunday were a mirror image of one another and absolutely no adjustments were made. I'm tired of watching Crosby and Malkin skate in circles with the puck and turn it over. We have $10 million in cap space and STH are assured every year that the best product is being put on the ice. This teams needs a net front presence. When I'm paying these kinds of prices, I expect to see a much better product on the ice. I felt the same way after the playoffs the last 3 seasons. IT'S THE SAME RESULT. I can honestly see another 4/5 playoff matchup in the future and another early exit in the first round. I believe we will be seeing either the Rangers or Devils as the 4/5.


I think the problem may be that your username is dated.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:19 pm

RxBandit66 wrote:This weekend showed us what we already know: when faced with any adversity, this is a .500 hockey team. With Letang out and Sid & Geno not producing, the rest of the players are easy to defend. The players tend to get easily frustrated, particularly the forwards, and take bad penalties that lead to goals. These are the same problems that have been emerging since the 2009 Cup, and they continue to be unresolved.


I'm at the point where there are a few things that need to be changed.

1. Winger. I think Zach Boychuk is a good hockey player, but I don't think he's 2nd line material on this team. Which leads me to --- He's better than Tyler Kennedy. I'd like to see Boychuk on the 3rd line and TK in the nacho box. However, I think they will make a trade for a winger and he will play on Sid's line. They will move Kunitz back to the Malkin line to see if they can get the chemistry from last year.

2. Lack of Veteran Leadership. This team really needs a Gonchar/Guerin type of player on it. It is really missing that vocal leader that can calm down before things explode...like they did in NJ.

3. Trade. So, who do you trade for? Iginla, Ryan, Gagner, Malone have been thrown out there. Ryan O'Reilly would be an interesting pick-up, if Shero could get him off his 5 years, 25 million contract demands.

I really like what I've seen from Bortuzzo. However, if he plays then we need to sit Engs.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby guiner on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:24 pm

Before you ditch Boychuk to third, just swap him with Kunitz and give that a go. The kid obviously has hockey sense to play with top talent, he know where to go and makes plays.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby Gaucho on Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:42 pm

Name Boychuk captain and hope for the best.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby RxBandit66 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:01 pm

guiner wrote:Before you ditch Boychuk to third, just swap him with Kunitz and give that a go. The kid obviously has hockey sense to play with top talent, he know where to go and makes plays.


I'd be all for that if they can land a player of Iginla's calibur to play on Sid's wing. Give him a shot with those two guys, and if he fails, put Duper back there. Right now, Duper's hands of stone is killing that line, and Kuniz has been great for three games and invisible for the rest. They need to be more consistent.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby The Snapshot on Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:09 pm

guiner wrote:Before you ditch Boychuk to third, just swap him with Kunitz and give that a go. The kid obviously has hockey sense to play with top talent, he know where to go and makes plays.


I think Dupuis is the biggest issue on the top 6 right now. I know your thinking is that Kunitz played so well with Neal and Malkin, but he is also the only guy on Crosby's line who is working with Sid right now. Maybe changing Boychuk/Dupuis between the lines would spark something.
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Re: All this weekend showed us fans is

Postby jprolley on Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:11 pm

team seemed gassed from so many games in a short time span. i expect them to come out wednesday flying again
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