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Big Nasty D

Postby psuhockey9 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:26 pm

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showt ... ?t=1352659

Its no secret that the D is soff. Watching the game last night I wishing that we had a mean nasty SOB that would clear everything and everyone that stood in front of the net. Does Jack Johnson fit that role? and if the above thread is true, what would it take to land him from a rebuilding Columbus team?
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby Pitts on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:27 pm

No, he doesn't
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:31 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jack Johnson? Seriously? He's **** terrible.

Sorry. He's just really bad. Like really really bad. He's also an offensive d-man, and is terrible positionally. He is nowhere near a "crease clearing D man"
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby RxBandit66 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:32 pm

They need a big body for sure, but certainly not a guy who takes penalties. Our superstars do plenty of that. A big guy in the mold of Hal Gill or Kjell Samuelsson would be ideal, somebody who could just shove players out of the crease easily and suffocate them in the corners.

Look, the Pens can score at will against the Flyers. They should just dress McIntyre against Philly and let him sit on the bench, maybe skate for a shift or two. If Rinaldo feels like visiting intensive care, he could drop the gloves with Big Mac. But nobody on their team will.

Dress the big guy. Get a lead. Trap the rest of the game. Pack it in and block shots, and it'll be the Flyers who get frustrated. And if the score gets out of hand and the antics start, Big Mac's there to answer the bell.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby sil on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:35 pm

Sarich, Mark or Brad Stuart, Fistric, Polak...

Some of them could probably be had...some probably not.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby Nizzy on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:39 pm

Did Fistric just go to Edm for like nothing?

Personally I think Engelland + Bortuzzo on the 3rd pairing is enough.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby Dickie Dunn on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:43 pm

Nizzy wrote:Did Fistric just go to Edm for like nothing?

Personally I think Engelland + Bortuzzo on the 3rd pairing is enough.


Engelland sucks at hockey though.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby Gunnerfan on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:06 pm

The only d-man that fits the bill that might be available is Douglas Murray. That dude is on mean SOB and would instantly add a new level edge and respect to the D. This team lets other talented teams with agitators dictate the game. Does anyone really think Guerin would of let this happen? Guerin's leadership would have been the calming influence this team needs. This team could also use a Gary Roberts or now Doug(Murray type of influence that if they are taking runs at your superstars, he can settle that matter quickly, ask Ben Eager.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby shmenguin on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:12 pm

our top 4 is what it is. we can't afford anyone more expensive, and i don't think we're interested in giving up any of those guys. so then it comes down to getting a lower-level guy like grossman or rolling the dice with bortuzzo. i'd probably stick with the latter.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby meow on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:18 pm

I was leary of this thread based off the title.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby DesertPenguin on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:23 pm

Engo will probably be in the press box come playoff time. Despres - Bortuzzo will be the 3rd pairing, and will be fine. Gotta let the kids play sometime.

If you wanted to move for a veteran rental, OK I guess, but next year Dumoulin and maybe Morrow are coming up, not to mention Harrington who many believe is ready now to step in and play.

The D will be fine. Get Malkin a LW, move Cooke down and find the best 6 guys to make the bottom 6 click.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby Trip McNeely on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:51 pm

I don't think we need any changes on defense. Most avaliable crease clearers are also pylons.

We need a guerin type to play on the top two lines that occasionally score, is physical, a calming presence and will stand up for his teammates (Iginla, Morrow for example)

I also wouldn't mind a tough third liner (Steve ott would be awesome) who can round out the 3rd line with Sutter and Cooke.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby pens2005 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:54 pm

Gunnerfan wrote:The only d-man that fits the bill that might be available is Douglas Murray. That dude is on mean SOB and would instantly add a new level edge and respect to the D. This team lets other talented teams with agitators dictate the game. Does anyone really think Guerin would of let this happen? Guerin's leadership would have been the calming influence this team needs. This team could also use a Gary Roberts or now Doug(Murray type of influence that if they are taking runs at your superstars, he can settle that matter quickly, ask Ben Eager.


Agreed!
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby ShipHockey7 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:22 pm

meow wrote:I was leary of this thread based off the title.


you and me both
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby mikey287 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:10 pm

meow wrote:I was leary of this thread based off the title.


:lol: at that.

:lol: at the link provided which goes to nothing.

:lol: at Jack Johnson solving our problems.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby penny lane on Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:15 pm

malkin's wing is on this team~ c kunitz.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby Metalmike on Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:19 pm

Fistric would have been a great addition to the Pens. i was pissed when i saw he went for basically nothing as well.


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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby pugilist13 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:47 pm

Murray or Polak and i'd be jumping for joy. Ain't happening though. Pens have 4 Dmen that can play come playoff time. I have been an Engelland fan since his days in the "A" and the "E". His play has regressed this year. Still a guy to keep around however and play according to the opposition. Bortuzzo, i like the kid but dont think he's the answer come playoff time. Spends more time on his ass than his skates. Hits and fights, although not very good at the latter.

Forget Geno's wing. They need to upgrade the blueline if they plan on making it past the 1st round.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby Kovy27 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:49 pm

psuhockey9 wrote:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1352659

Its no secret that the D is soff. Watching the game last night I wishing that we had a mean nasty SOB that would clear everything and everyone that stood in front of the net. Does Jack Johnson fit that role? and if the above thread is true, what would it take to land him from a rebuilding Columbus team?


There is no freakin way that Columbus even freakin thinks about trading Jack freakin Johnson. People are freakin ridiculous.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby MRandall25 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:51 pm

Kovy27 wrote:
psuhockey9 wrote:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1352659

Its no secret that the D is soff. Watching the game last night I wishing that we had a mean nasty SOB that would clear everything and everyone that stood in front of the net. Does Jack Johnson fit that role? and if the above thread is true, what would it take to land him from a rebuilding Columbus team?


There is no freakin way that Columbus even freakin thinks about trading Jack freakin Johnson. People are freakin ridiculous.


Not to mention he's nowhere close to being a "nasty SOB who would clear everything in front of the net".

OP also seems to miss the 1st post in his link which says he's a "defensive black hole who drags down his teammates at even strength".
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby DelPen on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:32 pm

Despres, Bortuzzo and Orpik should be enough if Bylsma would let a couple of them just play their game. Letang and Nisky aren't soft, Martin really isn't either. Gill wasn't a tough guy, he was just big and not immobile.

Orpik needs to play his role better and everything else will fall into place.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby meecrofilm on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:32 pm

Kovy27 wrote:
psuhockey9 wrote:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1352659

Its no secret that the D is soff. Watching the game last night I wishing that we had a mean nasty SOB that would clear everything and everyone that stood in front of the net. Does Jack Johnson fit that role? and if the above thread is true, what would it take to land him from a rebuilding Columbus team?


There is no freakin way that Columbus even freakin thinks about trading Jack freakin Johnson. People are freakin ridiculous.


Maybe, maybe not. If Columbus ends up with Seth Jones at the draft, then you've got Murray and Jones to build around from the backend. Maybe then you trade JJ for some help up front.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:37 pm

Oilers will probably end up with the first overall pick.
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:50 pm

Jack Johnson is soff (and tanking my fantasy team, sans ATOI)
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Re: Big Nasty D

Postby slappybrown on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:53 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:Jack Johnson is soff (and tanking my fantasy team, sans ATOI)

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