Moderators: Three Stars, dagny, pfim, netwolf
The Snapshot wrote:Mr. Colby wrote:I just don't understand these "it's the players' fault comments"...
Obviously it's the players' fault, they're the ones playing the game
But we've all been around the game long enough to know that the coach is the fall guy.
Stop acting like I'm arguing with you over whether to blame the coaches or the players.
Then stop saying goofy things like "we need a new voice". That seems to be blaming the coach, and forgive me if that makes me lump you in with the other high hockey IQ folks who want to replace the coach and write their blog about it.
Mr. Colby wrote:The Snapshot wrote:Mr. Colby wrote:I just don't understand these "it's the players' fault comments"...
Obviously it's the players' fault, they're the ones playing the game
But we've all been around the game long enough to know that the coach is the fall guy.
Stop acting like I'm arguing with you over whether to blame the coaches or the players.
Then stop saying goofy things like "we need a new voice". That seems to be blaming the coach, and forgive me if that makes me lump you in with the other high hockey IQ folks who want to replace the coach and write their blog about it.
There is a distinct difference between blaming the coach and saying the coach needs to be replaced
Mango Salsa wrote:Suggesting a change in coaches without providing a list of qualified candidates who would be an improvement over the current HC should be grounds for an immediate suspension of posting privileges.
FreeCandy44 wrote:ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!
shmenguin wrote:Mango Salsa wrote:Suggesting a change in coaches without providing a list of qualified candidates who would be an improvement over the current HC should be grounds for an immediate suspension of posting privileges.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Everyone wanted therrien out in 09. Like 4 people in the world knew anything about bylsma, and even they didn't think he was any kind of long term solution. So what then - should none of us have voiced our concern over therrien, even though history proved us correct?
Froggy wrote:shmenguin wrote:Mango Salsa wrote:Suggesting a change in coaches without providing a list of qualified candidates who would be an improvement over the current HC should be grounds for an immediate suspension of posting privileges.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Everyone wanted therrien out in 09. Like 4 people in the world knew anything about bylsma, and even they didn't think he was any kind of long term solution. So what then - should none of us have voiced our concern over therrien, even though history proved us correct?
yes, but he was replaced by bylsma, who apparently coasted to a cup with therrien's system and players, and "choked" in the playoffs 3 straight years, and apparently now needs to be fired.
so your argument's greatest strength is its greatest weakness...
Bowser wrote:What is this the Washington Capitals message board?
Like Lee Flowers said of the Buccaneers, they are paper champs. If you're thrilled with the Penguins winning in the regular season... that's the way of the regular season banner raising Capitals.
Bylsma won't be fired by Shero, that's why I didn't list candidates but let's not be ignorant, there are plenty of coaches in hockey who could come in and do just as he did with Therrien's team by making some adjustments. Good luck if you Bylsma is going to be that guy because he's been on record as saying, if the team plays Pittsburgh Penguins Hockey, they don't need to worry about the other team.
No system changes, no line matching....
I suspect Shero has no choice but to go all-in with the current staff and make some roster changes to fit the style of play.
slappybrown wrote:Most of your posts in this thread are you arguing with invented strawmen.
No one is saying LOL WE HAVE ARRIVED, WE ARE SECOND IN THE CONFERENCE in the style of Ted Leonsis. People are aware of the problems, including those that don't want to fire Bylsma. But,
slappybrown wrote:it is entirely reasonable to point out that the team's overall performance is amongst the top 5 or so overall in the NHL. Recognizing that things need to change with some tweaks to the roster rather than a more drastic firing of your head coach doesn't make this a Caps board.
slappybrown wrote:No one is content with regular season success here. You know this.
Mr. Colby wrote:I just don't understand these "it's the players' fault comments"...
Obviously it's the players' fault, they're the ones playing the game
But we've all been around the game long enough to know that the coach is the fall guy.
Stop acting like I'm arguing with you over whether to blame the coaches or the players.
Mr. Colby wrote:Who is the onus on to reign things in as a team? It's either the coach or the captain. If it doesn't happen, who takes the blame?
penmyst wrote:slappybrown wrote:Most of your posts in this thread are you arguing with invented strawmen.
No one is saying LOL WE HAVE ARRIVED, WE ARE SECOND IN THE CONFERENCE in the style of Ted Leonsis. People are aware of the problems, including those that don't want to fire Bylsma. But,
Everything before "but" is BS.slappybrown wrote:it is entirely reasonable to point out that the team's overall performance is amongst the top 5 or so overall in the NHL. Recognizing that things need to change with some tweaks to the roster rather than a more drastic firing of your head coach doesn't make this a Caps board.
Funny, because that sort of satisfaction with the regular season winning in spite of glaringly UN-PLAYOFF manner in doing it? Is precisely and exactly what Caps fans do.slappybrown wrote:No one is content with regular season success here. You know this.
If a person is defending what is happening on the ice (a hot mess of slop) by saying "we're at the top of the division" and "we are in the top 5 of NHL in winning"..... is sure as hell can and should be taken as being content with regular season success.
penmyst wrote:slappybrown wrote:Most of your posts in this thread are you arguing with invented strawmen.
No one is saying LOL WE HAVE ARRIVED, WE ARE SECOND IN THE CONFERENCE in the style of Ted Leonsis. People are aware of the problems, including those that don't want to fire Bylsma. But,
Everything before "but" is BS.slappybrown wrote:it is entirely reasonable to point out that the team's overall performance is amongst the top 5 or so overall in the NHL. Recognizing that things need to change with some tweaks to the roster rather than a more drastic firing of your head coach doesn't make this a Caps board.
Funny, because that sort of satisfaction with the regular season winning in spite of glaringly UN-PLAYOFF manner in doing it? Is precisely and exactly what Caps fans do.slappybrown wrote:No one is content with regular season success here. You know this.
If a person is defending what is happening on the ice (a hot mess of slop) by saying "we're at the top of the division" and "we are in the top 5 of NHL in winning"..... is sure as hell can and should be taken as being content with regular season success.
PensFanInDC wrote:penmyst wrote:slappybrown wrote:Most of your posts in this thread are you arguing with invented strawmen.
No one is saying LOL WE HAVE ARRIVED, WE ARE SECOND IN THE CONFERENCE in the style of Ted Leonsis. People are aware of the problems, including those that don't want to fire Bylsma. But,
Everything before "but" is BS.slappybrown wrote:it is entirely reasonable to point out that the team's overall performance is amongst the top 5 or so overall in the NHL. Recognizing that things need to change with some tweaks to the roster rather than a more drastic firing of your head coach doesn't make this a Caps board.
Funny, because that sort of satisfaction with the regular season winning in spite of glaringly UN-PLAYOFF manner in doing it? Is precisely and exactly what Caps fans do.slappybrown wrote:No one is content with regular season success here. You know this.
If a person is defending what is happening on the ice (a hot mess of slop) by saying "we're at the top of the division" and "we are in the top 5 of NHL in winning"..... is sure as hell can and should be taken as being content with regular season success.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests