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Scoring Race top 4

Postby BCG51585 on Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:09 pm

Weird dynamic in the top 4 spots of the NHL scoring race:
1. Sidney Crosby 45pts (drafted 1st overall)
2. Steven Stamkos 37pts (drafted 1st overall)
3. Chris Kunitz 36pts (undrafted, Crosby's linemate)
4. Martin St. Louis 33pts (undrafted, Stamkos' linemate)

OOOOOH Caaaaanada, we stand on guard for theeee...
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby murphydump55 on Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:17 pm

BCG51585 wrote:Weird dynamic in the top 4 spots of the NHL scoring race:
1. Sidney Crosby 45pts (drafted 1st overall)
2. Steven Stamkos 37pts (drafted 1st overall)
3. Chris Kunitz 36pts (undrafted, Crosby's linemate)
4. Martin St. Louis 33pts (undrafted, Stamkos' linemate)

OOOOOH Caaaaanada, we stand on guard for theeee...


I wonder if an American born player will ever win the scoring race in my day? As of now who would you think has the best chance? Even though I don't think anyone stands a chance with a healthy Sid, but if you had to pick someone?

Patrick Kane?
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby BCG51585 on Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:27 pm

murphydump55 wrote:
BCG51585 wrote:Weird dynamic in the top 4 spots of the NHL scoring race:
1. Sidney Crosby 45pts (drafted 1st overall)
2. Steven Stamkos 37pts (drafted 1st overall)
3. Chris Kunitz 36pts (undrafted, Crosby's linemate)
4. Martin St. Louis 33pts (undrafted, Stamkos' linemate)

OOOOOH Caaaaanada, we stand on guard for theeee...


I wonder if an American born player will ever win the scoring race in my day? As of now who would you think has the best chance? Even though I don't think anyone stands a chance with a healthy Sid, but if you had to pick someone?

Patrick Kane?


He's the only guy I could see doing it
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby relantel on Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:27 pm

enough multi-point games like this and Sid might have an outside shot at 100 points. He's on an 141 point pace on an 82 game season, 1.73ppg. Right now, on an 83 point pace for 48 games.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby CERV96 on Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:01 am

We were talking at the bar last night on how most of the players that went over seas during the lockout have seemed to struggle this year. We were starting to think that maybe this is because they were all set to spend the whole season there? There are other differences obviously bigger ice, softer hitting, etc....
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby shafnutz05 on Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:10 am

Yeah, Sid is sooooo good at getting secondary assists :pop:
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby tfrizz on Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:43 am

Kunitz is only one point behind Stamkos for 2nd in the scoring race... unreal. Crosby should get credited with two Art Ross trophies if Kunitz actually does finish 2nd. :)


lol
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby Big Easy Pens Fan on Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:25 am

The ole "winger for Sid" thread(s) can finally be put to rest. Extrapolate the stats for Kunitz & Dupuis and this is what you get for an 82 game season:

Kunitz: 53G + 58A = 112P
Dupuis: 34G + 18A = 52P

Crosby has not one but two good wingers. Kunitz was undrafted and Dupuis was a trade throw-in. The old saying "a great player makes those around him better" is certainly true about Sid. Just give Sid a little time and he develops his own wingers. :fist:

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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby Gaucho on Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:31 am

It's a shame those two are old and over the hill.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby tfrizz on Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:31 am

Big Easy Pens Fan wrote:The ole "winger for Sid" thread(s) can finally be put to rest. Extropolate the stats for Kunitz & Dupuis and this is what you get for an 82 game season:

Kunitz: 53G + 58A = 112P
Dupuis: 34G + 18A = 52P

Crosby has not one but two good wingers. Kunitz was undrafted and Dupuis was a trade throw-in. The old saying "a great player makes those around him better" is certainly true about Sid. Just give Sid a little time and he develops his own wingers. :fist:

BEPF


Like Kunitz said, it takes time to learn how to play with an uber-elite talent like Crosby but once you get it... just, wow!

The only issue is both Kunitz and Dupuis turn 34 this year. Hard to say how many good years are left in them, and there's nobody in the pipeline to take over.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:47 am

Joe Vitale?
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby PensFaninRegina on Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:48 am

tfrizz wrote:
Big Easy Pens Fan wrote:The ole "winger for Sid" thread(s) can finally be put to rest. Extropolate the stats for Kunitz & Dupuis and this is what you get for an 82 game season:

Kunitz: 53G + 58A = 112P
Dupuis: 34G + 18A = 52P

Crosby has not one but two good wingers. Kunitz was undrafted and Dupuis was a trade throw-in. The old saying "a great player makes those around him better" is certainly true about Sid. Just give Sid a little time and he develops his own wingers. :fist:

BEPF


Like Kunitz said, it takes time to learn how to play with an uber-elite talent like Crosby but once you get it... just, wow!

The only issue is both Kunitz and Dupuis turn 34 this year. Hard to say how many good years are left in them, and there's nobody in the pipeline to take over.


I'm not sure about Dupuis, but Kunitz probably still has 10 years in him, being from Saskatchewan. Something in the water up here (see : Howe, Gordie) :)
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby Dickie Dunn on Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:49 am

CERV96 wrote:We were talking at the bar last night on how most of the players that went over seas during the lockout have seemed to struggle this year. We were starting to think that maybe this is because they were all set to spend the whole season there? There are other differences obviously bigger ice, softer hitting, etc....


Crap competition creates bad habits.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby columbia on Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:20 am

Matt Moulson is 13th in points. :pop:
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby Pucks_and_Pols on Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:51 am

murphydump55 wrote:
BCG51585 wrote:I wonder if an American born player will ever win the scoring race in my day? As of now who would you think has the best chance? Even though I don't think anyone stands a chance with a healthy Sid, but if you had to pick someone?

Patrick Kane?


He's the only guy I could see doing it


Kane for sure.

I could also see Kessel if he ever played with a truly elite center and on a team with a top-5 power play having an outside shot. I don't think either of these players could really be the guy to do it, but I'd say they are probaly the two best chances for Americans that are playing right now.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby iWonTheCup87 on Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:01 am

i want to see a hat trick for crosby, hes been doing so much dirty work setting up people itd be nice to see him get a hatty this season
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby relantel on Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:05 am

iWonTheCup87 wrote:i want to see a hat trick for crosby, hes been doing so much dirty work setting up people itd be nice to see him get a hatty this season

been since Calgary game November 2010
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby slappybrown on Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:08 am

Kessel looks like he smokes a pack of Reds a day. Just all ashy and bloated looking at all times.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby Hawkeynut on Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:18 am

While I am ecstatic of the pace in which Dupuis and Kunitz are on with Crosby as their center. Over the long haul, the Pens will need to address "A winger for Sid". Kunitz and Dupuis while in great shape physically will not keep these kinds of seasons up past 2 years or so. I would be interested in seeing how Bennet plays with Sid at some point. Not now of course, but at some point.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby jprolley on Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:21 am

convinced now that sid could turn steve macintyre into a 10-15 goal guy
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby Hawkeynut on Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:24 am

slappybrown wrote:Kessel looks like he smokes a pack of Reds a day. Just all ashy and bloated looking at all times.


On Saturday they kept showing him hunched over with his face buried behind the boards after each shift. Guy was gassed!!
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby TrueNorth on Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:29 pm

iWonTheCup87 wrote:i want to see a hat trick for crosby, hes been doing so much dirty work setting up people itd be nice to see him get a hatty this season


While I would like to see Sid sink a few more--and a hat trick would be great--I don’t think that is his mindset. He has always thought of himself as, first and foremost, a playmaker and has said that scoring goals isn’t something that comes naturally to him; he has to focus on it, which he has done in the past with great results. His primary objective, however, is to win games and I think that is why he is passing up what appear to be good scoring opportunities. It’s not a case of his never taking a shot--he currently has 91--but his shooting percentage is 13.2. By comparison, Kunitz has 59 shots and a shooting percentage of 28.8. I think Sid is playing the odds, and passing to whoever he thinks has the best chance of scoring. And right now, that probably isn’t him.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby Mongoose87 on Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:15 pm

jprolley wrote:convinced now that sid could turn steve macintyre into a 10-15 goal guy

Too slow. Koltsov, though? I'd give it a chance.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby CERV96 on Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:17 pm

TrueNorth wrote:
iWonTheCup87 wrote:i want to see a hat trick for crosby, hes been doing so much dirty work setting up people itd be nice to see him get a hatty this season


While I would like to see Sid sink a few more--and a hat trick would be great--I don’t think that is his mindset. He has always thought of himself as, first and foremost, a playmaker and has said that scoring goals isn’t something that comes naturally to him; he has to focus on it, which he has done in the past with great results. His primary objective, however, is to win games and I think that is why he is passing up what appear to be good scoring opportunities. It’s not a case of his never taking a shot--he currently has 91--but his shooting percentage is 13.2. By comparison, Kunitz has 59 shots and a shooting percentage of 28.8. I think Sid is playing the odds, and passing to whoever he thinks has the best chance of scoring. And right now, that probably isn’t him.


Excellent point.
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Re: Scoring Race top 4

Postby relantel on Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:26 pm

Mongoose87 wrote:
jprolley wrote:convinced now that sid could turn steve macintyre into a 10-15 goal guy

Too slow. Koltsov, though? I'd give it a chance.

wasn't Koltsov hands of stone?
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