MRandall25 wrote:Desiato wrote:MRandall25 wrote:The onus is on the coach to teach how to overcome, yes, but the onus is on the players to actually go out and do it.
Again, I don't think the Pens have a motivational issue. However, hypothetically, if the players refuse to listen to the coach, then the coach is still the problem. Getting people to do what you want them to is a basic tenet of coaching, regardless of the personnel. If he can't do that, he's gotta go in favor of someone with the tools necessary to work with that group of players.
Typically, coaches are hired according to rosters, not the other way around. Rosters are dictated by the vision of the management. A roster may be tweaked, but a complete remake mid-tenure is unlikely. Like coaches, management usually only have so many chances to put the pieces together before they gotta go too. A notable exception as a coach, but not a manager, was Mike Keenan. No thanks.
It's basic accountability. But that's just my humble opinion.
But why is it always "The players refuse to listen to the coach" if it doesn't work? Do the players not have a responsibility to control themselves? Is it the coach's fault if the players listen, but can't adjust themselves?
It isn't 'always'. I said if. If you're not referring to a motivational issue, but an inability to execute, then the onus is still on the coach. He has to design a system that his roster is capable of executing and enables his team to succeed. Even if the roster is fundamentally flawed, it is still his job to figure it out. Like I said, basic accountability. If the roster is that bad, chances are his boss isn't going to last for very long and the new boss will want to replace the coach regardless. On the same note, the coach has to hold his players accountable too.
Now, again, this is completely hypothetical. But like everyone else here, I have an opinion about the Penguins' troubles and happen to believe they have the personnel to overcome their apparent shortcomings. I think this is a roster that can be improved--obviously Shero didn't do everything he intended last summer--but a roster that most, if not all, coaches would be thrilled to work with.
I don't want to be accused of being negative after a win. I was thrilled with tonight's victory and the past two games have clearly been strong wins; as opposed to ugly wins unbefitting of a legitimate cup contender that I've been critical of before. GO PENS!