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Chemistry and line combinations

Postby headh on Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:19 am

1) net front presence
2) play maker
3) sniper


1) Cooke 2)Crosby 3) iginla
1) Morrow 2) Malkin 3) Neal
1) Kunitz 2) Jussi 3) dupuis
1) Glass 2) Sutter 3) Kennedy

When Cooke plays with 87 he scores and plays the crash the net role perfectly. Iginla is the ideal sniper for Sid. It's three legitimate scoring lines.

The whole 4th line can Pk as well as 9,36 and 24
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Pens4Life on Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:24 am

Cooke on 1st,Kunitz on 3rd? That doesnt make sense..
It clearly that Geno line isnt working,with Neal and Iggy both cant adapt with LW spot.. So I would put Iggy on RW with Sid and Kuny on LW with Geno. Dupuis would be better with JJ and Sutter probably on 3rd line because of speed,but I think he deserves time with Sid.
Morrow will be fine as 3rd liner,if it doesnt work there is still Cooke.

Dupuis - Crosby - Iginla
Kunitz - Malkin - Neal
Jokinen - Sutter - Morrow/Cooke (JJ takes faceoffs most of the time)
Cooke - Adams - Kennedy
x - Glass, Jeffrey, Vitale
Orpik - Martin
Letang - Murray
Eaton - Niskanen
Despres - Engelland
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby headh on Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:05 am

The goal is to have three highly productive lines. My thinking is that Kunitz, jussi and dupuis will create scoring chances and score as a unit. Cooke will score with Sid at a much higher rate than if you stick him on a third line with a lesser playmaker. See 19 goals last season. This creates three lines hat will all produce. Iginla and Sid are world class. Geno and Neal are world class. The Kunitz jussi and dupuis combo will forecheck, cycle and finish.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby DelPen on Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:54 pm

Say Neal is out for a week, and then the top two lines start producing and dominate:

Kunitz-Jokinen-Dupuis
Bennett-Malkin-Iginla

When Neal and Sid are back throw this into the mix:

Morrow-Crosby-Neal

And then Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy as your 4th line.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby GSdrums87 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:12 pm

Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Morrow-Malkin-Neal
Dupuis-Sutter-Jokinen
Cooke-Vitale-Adams
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Rylan on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:24 pm

I miss the old NHL games that had chemistry matter...
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Gaucho on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:33 pm

headh wrote:
1) Cooke 2)Crosby 3) iginla
1) Morrow 2) Malkin 3) Neal
1) Kunitz 2) Jussi 3) dupuis
1) Glass 2) Sutter 3) Kennedy



Replace Glass with BB and we can have four scoring lines and win every game 8-6!
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby tfrizz on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:35 pm

Gaucho wrote:
headh wrote:
1) Cooke 2)Crosby 3) iginla
1) Morrow 2) Malkin 3) Neal
1) Kunitz 2) Jussi 3) dupuis
1) Glass 2) Sutter 3) Kennedy



Replace Glass with BB and we can have four scoring lines and win every game 8-6!


Second round, here we come!
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby It'sagreatdayforhockey! on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:43 am

DelPen wrote:Say Neal is out for a week, and then the top two lines start producing and dominate:

Kunitz-Jokinen-Dupuis
Bennett-Malkin-Iginla

When Neal and Sid are back throw this into the mix:

Morrow-Crosby-Neal

And then Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy as your 4th line.



Quite the optimist aren't you?
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby headh on Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:15 am

It'sagreatdayforhockey! wrote:
DelPen wrote:Say Neal is out for a week, and then the top two lines start producing and dominate:

Kunitz-Jokinen-Dupuis
Bennett-Malkin-Iginla

When Neal and Sid are back throw this into the mix:

Morrow-Crosby-Neal

And then Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy as your 4th line.



Quite the optimist aren't you?


what part of that scenario seems so far fetched to you?
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby no name on Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:19 am

Kunitz-Malkin-Neal << best line in hockey reunited from last season, that should get that line going again

Morrow-Crosby-Iginla << lets face it we all want to see Sid and Iggy together. You can always throw Duper on that line iif need be.

Cooke-Sutter-Dupuis

Kennedy-Vitale-Adams

I think switching it up a little might spark these guys a little. I have been saying it all along that we need to get Malkin and Neal going again, adding Kunitz back on that line might be just the thing.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:29 am

Breaking up the actual best line in hockey so you can create a lesser "greatest line in hockey" is a great idea. Morrow-Crosby-Iginla would not be good.
Or rather Crosby-Iginla
Morrow-Center D-Right D would not be good.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby JoseCuervo on Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:33 am

no name wrote:I have been saying it all along that we need to get Malkin and Neal going again, adding Kunitz back on that line might be just the thing.


I don't think Kunitz is going to make Malkin play that much better. It's obvious that Malkin isn't playing like he did last year, but I don't think it's because of his linemates.

I'd put Morrow with Malkin and Neal because they actually had a good game together, and Morrow can't play the speed game that Crosby and Kunitz can.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Steve Dave on Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:56 am

Kunitz Crosby Iginla
Morrow Malkin Neal
Cooke Sutter Dupuis
Adams Jokinen Kennedy

OR

Dupuis Crosby Iginla
Kunitz Malkin Neal
Morrow Sutter Kennedy
Cooke Jokinen Adams
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby no name on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:02 am

JoseCuervo wrote:
no name wrote:I have been saying it all along that we need to get Malkin and Neal going again, adding Kunitz back on that line might be just the thing.


I don't think Kunitz is going to make Malkin play that much better. It's obvious that Malkin isn't playing like he did last year, but I don't think it's because of his linemates.

I'd put Morrow with Malkin and Neal because they actually had a good game together, and Morrow can't play the speed game that Crosby and Kunitz can.


What does it tell you when the 2 best lines in hockey had one of the same player. Kunitz is a valuable player when playing with elite talent. I think Malkin needs that type of guy more than Sid. Crosby with Iginla would have to suffer through.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:10 am

It tells me that Kunitz is a versatile player that can benefit from elite players playing at a high level. If Crosby's play drops way off when he comes back, then by all means, mess with his line.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby CERV96 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:14 am

People just don't seem to give up on putting Malkin/Kunitz together will they? It's not going to help whatever is nagging Geno. I believe there is more to this than people seem to think. Weather it is injury, starting in one league then playing in another, or his shoulder who knows? I think some of these players expected to stay in Russia or their other leagues all season. A lot of them have struggled this year. It took Ovie forever to heat up once he got back. Time will be the deciding factor in a lot of this.

EDIT: Just saw the lines. Looks like we will get to see now.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby André on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:17 am

Rylan wrote:I miss the old NHL games that had chemistry matter...


Hehe yeah the op seems to be inspired by that formula =)
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Shakes on Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:09 pm

headh wrote:1) net front presence
2) play maker
3) sniper


1) Cooke 2)Crosby 3) iginla
1) Morrow 2) Malkin 3) Neal
1) Kunitz 2) Jussi 3) dupuis
1) Glass 2) Sutter 3) Kennedy

When Cooke plays with 87 he scores and plays the crash the net role perfectly. Iginla is the ideal sniper for Sid. It's three legitimate scoring lines.

The whole 4th line can Pk as well as 9,36 and 24


I recall Sid playing a few games with Cookie after he came back last year. After a brief period, it seemed clear that Cooke could not keep up with him over an extended period (not a knock on Cooke). I don't think Cooke on Sid's line is a good option.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby no name on Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:16 pm

Shakes wrote:
headh wrote:1) net front presence
2) play maker
3) sniper


1) Cooke 2)Crosby 3) iginla
1) Morrow 2) Malkin 3) Neal
1) Kunitz 2) Jussi 3) dupuis
1) Glass 2) Sutter 3) Kennedy

When Cooke plays with 87 he scores and plays the crash the net role perfectly. Iginla is the ideal sniper for Sid. It's three legitimate scoring lines.

The whole 4th line can Pk as well as 9,36 and 24


I recall Sid playing a few games with Cookie after he came back last year. After a brief period, it seemed clear that Cooke could not keep up with him over an extended period (not a knock on Cooke). I don't think Cooke on Sid's line is a good option.


one minor adjustment, Move Sutter on SIds wing or Jussi. No way should Sutter play 4th line minutes.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby headh on Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:27 pm

Shakes wrote:
headh wrote:1) net front presence
2) play maker
3) sniper


1) Cooke 2)Crosby 3) iginla
1) Morrow 2) Malkin 3) Neal
1) Kunitz 2) Jussi 3) dupuis
1) Glass 2) Sutter 3) Kennedy

When Cooke plays with 87 he scores and plays the crash the net role perfectly. Iginla is the ideal sniper for Sid. It's three legitimate scoring lines.

The whole 4th line can Pk as well as 9,36 and 24


I recall Sid playing a few games with Cookie after he came back last year. After a brief period, it seemed clear that Cooke could not keep up with him over an extended period (not a knock on Cooke). I don't think Cooke on Sid's line is a good option.


I don't recall that at all.

I recall Bob Errey going on and on about how Matt Cooke was having a blast playing with Sid. All he need to do was go to the front and keep his stick on the ice..blah blah.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby headh on Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:29 pm

no name wrote:
Shakes wrote:
headh wrote:1) net front presence
2) play maker
3) sniper


1) Cooke 2)Crosby 3) iginla
1) Morrow 2) Malkin 3) Neal
1) Kunitz 2) Jussi 3) dupuis
1) Glass 2) Sutter 3) Kennedy

When Cooke plays with 87 he scores and plays the crash the net role perfectly. Iginla is the ideal sniper for Sid. It's three legitimate scoring lines.

The whole 4th line can Pk as well as 9,36 and 24


I recall Sid playing a few games with Cookie after he came back last year. After a brief period, it seemed clear that Cooke could not keep up with him over an extended period (not a knock on Cooke). I don't think Cooke on Sid's line is a good option.


one minor adjustment, Move Sutter on SIds wing or Jussi. No way should Sutter play 4th line minutes.


I love your suggestion(s). Sutter on Sid's wing (with Sutter's ability to finish) might be lethal. Also Cooke is an ideal fourth liner
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Shakes on Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:56 pm

headh wrote:
Shakes wrote:
headh wrote:
I recall Sid playing a few games with Cookie after he came back last year. After a brief period, it seemed clear that Cooke could not keep up with him over an extended period (not a knock on Cooke). I don't think Cooke on Sid's line is a good option.


I don't recall that at all.

I recall Bob Errey going on and on about how Matt Cooke was having a blast playing with Sid. All he need to do was go to the front and keep his stick on the ice..blah blah.


Again, Cooke no doubt has enough game to handle some time on Sid's wing if necessary. But if this lineup ever gets healthy, it just doesn't make sense. His skill set is not good enough. You want a "go-to-net" guy. Kunitz does that and has more speed and skill than Cooke.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby DelPen on Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:09 pm

From practice today:

14-71-12
10-36-9
24-16-48
15-27-19

44-4
2-3
58-47
41-5
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby SolidSnake on Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:11 pm

Malkin centering the 4th line. :pop:
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