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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby meecrofilm on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:55 am

If we manage to have a healthy D for the playoffs, Game 1 will be:

Orpik-Martin
Eaton-Letang
Murray-Niskanen

And that's our best option anyway.

Now forwards on the other hand... you know those will suck :P
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby headh on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:57 am

meecrofilm wrote:If we manage to have a healthy D for the playoffs, Game 1 will be:

Orpik-Martin
Eaton-Letang
Murray-Niskanen

And that's our best option anyway.

Now forwards on the other hand... you know those will suck :P


completely agree
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby thehockeyguru on Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:22 pm

Nizzy wrote:

9 Dupuis 87 Crosby 12 Iginla
14 Kunitz 71 Malkin 18 Neal
24 Cooke 16 Sutter 10 Morrow
36 Jokinen 27 Adams 48 Kennedy
15 Glass
19 Bennett
46 Vitale
17 Jeffrey

7 Martin 44 Orpik
58 Letang 47 Despres
2 Niskanen 3 Murray
4 Eaton
41 Bortuzzo
5 Engelland

29 Fleury
92 Vokoun
37 Zatoff





I like those lines, but I'd switch Cooke and Jokinen. Despres is getting scratched in the regular season, no way they start him in the playoffs.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby jwest21 on Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:30 pm

I still don't see the Pens breaking up the Crosby-Dupuis-Kunitz line unless the whole team goes into a goal scoring funk
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby NeddieVedder on Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:48 pm

Nizzy wrote:There is 0 benefit to putting Bennett on the 4th line. Leave the kid at WBS. He's a top 9 player.


Said on the same page where you yourself mention Crosby and Malkin doubleshifting with the 4th line. I wonder if ...

Nizzy wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:Despres is not going to be playing in the playoffs over Eaton unless he's playing sheltered minutes on the 3rd pairing


I know you're right, but I hope you're wrong. Eaton is a great fill in guy. I just don't think he has enough left, enough speed for a long playoff run to not get exposed.


Eaton is worth dressing over Despres in the playoffs for PK alone. (Cue dramatic meltdown and bizarre fan fiction.)
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby murphydump55 on Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:52 pm

Anyone that puts Jokinen on the wing is drunk.

We have faceoff problems outside of Sid and Jokinen is a beast on the dot, and you wanna play him on the wing? :scared:
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby NeddieVedder on Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:56 pm

WINGERS CAN TAKE FACEOFFS. for real. it's a whole thing.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby MRandall25 on Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:08 pm

You're either putting Jokinen on wing, Sutter on wing, or Jokinen in the press box. Neither he nor Sutter are 4th liners.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Kovy27 on Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:22 pm

MRandall25 wrote:You're either putting Jokinen on wing, Sutter on wing, or Jokinen in the press box. Neither he nor Sutter are 4th liners.


or you are drunk.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby headh on Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:45 pm

I could easily jokinen on SID's wing

JJ. Sid. Iggy
Kuny 71 Neal
Morrow 16 dup
24 46 48

Beau is gonna be a healthy scratch. Sux but its true
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby André on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:37 am

Considering how Dupuis - Jokinen - Morrow is looking great, what about the following?

Iginla - Crosby - Malkin
Kunitz - Sutter - Neal
Dupuis - Jokinen - Morrow
Cooke - Adams - Kennedy
Vitale, Jeffrey, Glass, Bennett

Jokinen's too hot for the fourth line. And someone has to suggest this 8-)

Regardless of how small the chances are of a shot at this, it is one sick line up. Absolutely filthy.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Pens4Life on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:49 am

After all I saw until now I think we should see something like this :
Dupuis - Crosby - Iginla
Kunitz - Malkin - Neal
Bennett - Jokinen - Morrow
Cooke - Sutter - Kennedy
x - Adams, Glass, Vitale, Jeffrey
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby thehockeyguru on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:17 pm

Pens4Life wrote:After all I saw until now I think we should see something like this :
Dupuis - Crosby - Iginla
Kunitz - Malkin - Neal
Bennett - Jokinen - Morrow
Cooke - Sutter - Kennedy
x - Adams, Glass, Vitale, Jeffrey


Who kills penalties?

Cooke, Dupuis, Sutter, and Jokinen?
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Inkio on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:32 pm

Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Bennett-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Jokinen-Dupuis
Cooke-Sutter-Adams

Perfect lineup.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby DelPen on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:43 pm

Locks to be dressed would be Crosby, Malkin, Iginla, Neal, Kunitz, Dupuis, Sutter, Morrow and Cooke.

That leaves 3 spots left for 7 guys.

Jokinen
Adams
Glass
Kennedy
Bennett
Vitale
Jeffrey

Seeing how Bylsma has managed this roster I would say above is the depth order we will see come playoff time. Get used to Glass-Jokinen-Adams as our 4th line when everyone is healthy and then trying to force Neal and Iginla on a line with Malkin.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby pcm on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:45 pm

Chemistry doesn't score goals.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby meow on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:48 pm

Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Jokinen-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Sutter-Dupuis
Cooke-Vitale-Adams
X Jeffrey, Kennedy, Glass, Bennett

Face-offs are at a premium in the post-season. Jokinen can take some draws for Malkin. Vitale is our highest % guy.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby Waffles on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:49 pm

I think that at this point, our team is deep enough that we roll four competitive lines the entire game. To say that a player isn't a "fourth liner" is normally appropriate, but this circumstance is an exception in my mind. The depth of our team with a healthy lineup is terrifying.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby meecrofilm on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:58 pm

DelPen wrote:Seeing how Bylsma has managed this roster I would say above is the depth order we will see come playoff time. Get used to Glass-Jokinen-Adams as our 4th line when everyone is healthy and then trying to force Neal and Iginla on a line with Malkin.


Yes indeed.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby thehockeyguru on Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:05 pm

meow wrote:Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Jokinen-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Sutter-Dupuis
Cooke-Vitale-Adams
X Jeffrey, Kennedy, Glass, Bennett

Face-offs are at a premium in the post-season. Jokinen can take some draws for Malkin. Vitale is our highest % guy.


Switch Jokinen and Dupuis. No way Vitale plays over Kennedy.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby meow on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:37 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
meow wrote:Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Jokinen-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Sutter-Dupuis
Cooke-Vitale-Adams
X Jeffrey, Kennedy, Glass, Bennett

Face-offs are at a premium in the post-season. Jokinen can take some draws for Malkin. Vitale is our highest % guy.


Switch Jokinen and Dupuis. No way Vitale plays over Kennedy.

That's a shame, but most likely true. <Insert overused Bylsma loves Kennedy comment>
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby MRandall25 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:42 pm

What in Kennedy's game last night shows he needs to be sat?

It's not like he's been a liability on the ice, and his game was one of the better ones he's played.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby joopen on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:44 pm

MRandall25 wrote:What in Kennedy's game last night shows he needs to be sat?

It's not like he's been a liability on the ice, and his game was one of the better ones he's played.


And his play has been getting better as the season has gone along.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby meow on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:45 pm

MRandall25 wrote:What in Kennedy's game last night shows he needs to be sat?

It's not like he's been a liability on the ice, and his game was one of the better ones he's played.

He did play well last night. For me, it's a numbers game. Iginla, Neal, Dupuis and Adams are the 4 right-wingers I want to see in the playoffs. One of those guys get hurt or something, it's nice to have Kennedy.
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Re: Chemistry and line combinations

Postby joopen on Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:01 pm

With everyone healthy the first scratches in the playoffs will be Jeffrey, Vitale, Bennett, Despres, Bortuzzo. Those are the no brainers as has been shown by our coaching staff already.

Dupuis-Crosby-Iginla
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal

Some version of these 6 fwds will be your top 2 lines. I think how well Iginla plays while Neal is out will tell us if they move him back to LW when Neal is ready. If he plays well he may stay on RW and move Dupuis to LW.

The bottom 2 lines is a lot of interchangeable parts depending on the opponent and situation.

Morrow Sutter Cooke Jokinnen Kennedy Adams Glass

I don't think you will see a true 4th line in terms of minutes played unless Adams and Glass are in the lineup at the same time.
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