Idoit40fans wrote:headh wrote:DontToewsMeBro wrote:My comment was in no way, shape, or form about Fleury. I made no allusion to Fleury's play, which I personally think has been quite good this season. That doesn't mean I think he is elite--he's not. At all. But we don't need him to be. Unfortunately he has also been quite bad at times, i.e., Flyers series. Which game did he steal in that one?
Wins are a team statistic, that's all I'm trying to say. In fact, I'd say that if we're going to pick any arbitrary player to pile up 'Ws' in their stat column, it's Sid that deserves it, not Fleury.
1) backpedal much?
2) Sid played 22 games last season and the Penguins put up 108 points in the standings. I'd say the Penguins are much more than Sidney Crosby.
I'd say the number of people who interpreted it as not being about Fleury strongly supports the idea that it was not about Fleury. As for part 2...sounds like you are agreeing with him. I'm not really sure what the point of your post is now that I think about it.
My point is simple. MAF is an elite talent.
I am agreeing with the idea that hockey is a team game. That's certainly not a novel idea. If one statistic, wins, is a bi-product of team play then so is GAA and save percentage.
His statistics (GAA, Save Percentage and wins included) are a bi-product of the Pens wide open style of play and scoring ability. IMO Wins are also a statistic just like GAA and Save Percentage. People are pointing to his GAA and his save percentage as proof of his ability or lack of ability. I offered up the idea that MAF wins at an alarmingly high rate at a very young age.
What is an unexplained phenomenon in this whole picture is that MAF, while playing for the most wide open team in the league, will steal games in the playoffs due to his outstanding ability. The fact that he has such outstanding ability and looks so good in an offensively oriented system is what should be discussed. Pointing to one poor playoff series as proof of his lack of ability seems remarkably inconsistent with the point that hockey is a team game.