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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby Penspal on Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:14 am

Ride the Pines in WBS for the playoffs, Pens can let goalie coaches work with him, might even see some mop up minutes. You never know.
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby meecrofilm on Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:09 pm

tfrizz wrote:
relantel wrote:official release says it's for 12-13 season?
The deal runs through the 2012-13 season and has an average annual value of $925,000.



Yup, for the rest of this season. Then he'll become an RFA.


Yep. It's a good signing.
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Re: Pens close to signing Hartzell

Postby JoseCuervo on Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:32 pm

MayIsForHockey wrote:
columbia wrote:Anyway, does he actually have a chance or this just a shot in the dark?

He's an undrafted 24-year old, so he is no lock to make it to the NHL. However, he was a first-team all-american and finalist for the Hobey Baker Award. So, he's not exactly a shot in the dark.


So was Thiessen.
By no means is it a bad signing, but there should be some tempered expectations.
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Re: Pens close to signing Hartzell

Postby no name on Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:33 pm

JoseCuervo wrote:
MayIsForHockey wrote:
columbia wrote:Anyway, does he actually have a chance or this just a shot in the dark?

He's an undrafted 24-year old, so he is no lock to make it to the NHL. However, he was a first-team all-american and finalist for the Hobey Baker Award. So, he's not exactly a shot in the dark.


So was Thiessen.
By no means is it a bad signing, but there should be some tempered expectations.


Very true, a one year deal was benificial to both parties, Pens get to see if he has a future in the NHL (which he might not) ANd Hartzell can see if he has success he can try to get a bigger contract. I don't remember Theisen making quite as loud of a splash as Hartzell made this season.
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Re: Pens close to signing Hartzell

Postby Sigwolf on Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:43 pm

no name wrote:Very true, a one year deal was benificial to both parties, Pens get to see if he has a future in the NHL (which he might not) ANd Hartzell can see if he has success he can try to get a bigger contract. I don't remember Theisen making quite as loud of a splash as Hartzell made this season.


Dude, again, as has been pointed out numerous times in this thread... a one year deal was the *only* deal available to both parties. The CBA states, due to his age, a one year deal is the only option for an entry level contract... Neither side made a cagey deal, if a team wanted to sign him, it had to be a one year deal, end of story.
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby taz71 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:57 am

What goalie would want to sign for the Flyers after the ran Brobovsky out of town and he ends up having a spectacular season in Columbus. Philly seems to blame everything on their goalie. They basically built a team to beat the penguins which they did last year at the expense of everything else.
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby JeffDFD on Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:22 pm

Twitter reporting he is on the NHL roster and getting #31. Why NHL roster?

Mike Colligan ‏@MikeColligan 13m
Goaltender Eric Hartzell joins the #Pens NHL roster as number 31 after signing with the organization yesterday
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby columbia on Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:23 pm

JeffDFD wrote:Twitter reporting he is on the NHL roster and getting #31. Why NHL roster?

Mike Colligan ‏@MikeColligan 13m
Goaltender Eric Hartzell joins the #Pens NHL roster as number 31 after signing with the organization yesterday


http://penguins.nhl.com/club/roster.htm
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby Shyster on Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:46 pm

JeffDFD wrote:Twitter reporting he is on the NHL roster and getting #31. Why NHL roster?

Maybe they want him to serve as a practice goalie for the injured guys who are skating separately from the regular practice?
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby MRandall25 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:47 pm

I mean, they have his RFA rights. At this point in the season, does it really matter where he is?
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby mikey287 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:55 pm

They probably just want the coaches to get a look at him and what not...no big deal. That's part of the evaluation process, letting the goalie coach get acquainted with him, and all that noise...no big deal.
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby MayIsForHockey on Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:33 pm

I believe I read somewhere that:
Since it was after the trade deadline when the Pens signed him, he cannot be sent down.
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby SolidSnake on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:04 pm

I'm confused so he's signed through the rest of this season? I thought this was for next season? Doesn't make sense just for this season only.
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby MayIsForHockey on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:20 pm

SolidSnake wrote:I'm confused so he's signed through the rest of this season? I thought this was for next season? Doesn't make sense just for this season only.

I believe he's RFA after this season.
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby SolidSnake on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:21 pm

MayIsForHockey wrote:
SolidSnake wrote:I'm confused so he's signed through the rest of this season? I thought this was for next season? Doesn't make sense just for this season only.

I believe he's RFA after this season.

Ah ok, well that makes it better.
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby mikey287 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:19 pm

MayIsForHockey wrote:I believe I read somewhere that:
Since it was after the trade deadline when the Pens signed him, he cannot be sent down.


That doesn't sound right. Let me see if I can get to the bottom of that.

Since he was acquired after the trade deadline, he's not eligible for the playoffs. Neither playoffs I don't think because he wasn't on the clear day roster for the AHL.

Keeping him in the NHL also can be part of the promise...he gets one NHL paycheck for his time up here as part of the promise.

Some teams, where applicable, will use things like that. For instance, the "9 game" rule that you see in the beginning of the season for junior players before they get sent back...well, that applies here too. Except, this season, it's 6 games I think because it's a short year. But, still...

"Hey, [free agent], you sign with us and we'll get you in the lineup next year and we'll burn this year of your ELC by giving you six games...so you're out of the entry level system quicker..."

These things happen...though, that's not necessarily specific to Hartzell...
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Re: Pens sign Hartzell

Postby meow on Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:41 am

I agree that this is a bridge contract. These six games get him closer to UFA.
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