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Postby MRandall25 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:29 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
Nizzy wrote:Letang Eaton
Martin Despres
Niskanen Murray

Engelland isnt better than Despres


It doesnt matter who is better, its who HCDB prefers.


It's not really that, either. You don't give a rookie 20 minutes of ice time in the playoffs. Especially after he's shown in recent games that he is, in fact, a rookie and prone to rookie mistakes.

You can't afford rookie mistakes in the playoffs.
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Postby thehockeyguru on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:31 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
thehockeyguru wrote:
Nizzy wrote:Letang Eaton
Martin Despres
Niskanen Murray

Engelland isnt better than Despres


It doesnt matter who is better, its who HCDB prefers.


It's not really that, either. You don't give a rookie 20 minutes of ice time in the playoffs. Especially after he's shown in recent games that he is, in fact, a rookie and prone to rookie mistakes.

You can't afford rookie mistakes in the playoffs.


Pick your poison. Despres with mistakes because he is a rookie or Engellend with mistakes because he just isnt that good (Not a top 4 Dman).
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Postby Beveridge on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:34 pm

Doesn't matter who it is.

If Orpik is out, Martin Eaton Letang are rotated as the shutdown guys, Nisky and Murray do their thing and Engo (or whoever) gets about 10-12 minutes in protected (as much as can be) ice time.
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Re: ROUND 1 PENGUINS VS. ISLANDERS Pre-Game 1 Discussion Thr

Postby MRandall25 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:35 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
thehockeyguru wrote:
Nizzy wrote:Letang Eaton
Martin Despres
Niskanen Murray

Engelland isnt better than Despres


It doesnt matter who is better, its who HCDB prefers.


It's not really that, either. You don't give a rookie 20 minutes of ice time in the playoffs. Especially after he's shown in recent games that he is, in fact, a rookie and prone to rookie mistakes.

You can't afford rookie mistakes in the playoffs.


Pick your poison. Despres with mistakes because he is a rookie or Engellend with mistakes because he just isnt that good (Not a top 4 Dman).


Who would put Engelland in the top 4?

If Engelland is in, he's playing the bottom pairing.
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Postby thehockeyguru on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:36 pm

With Niskanen and Murray together, Engellend would likely be paired with Martin or Letang. Either combo isnt going to be a bottom pairing.
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Postby tfrizz on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:44 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:With Niskanen and Murray together, Engellend would likely be paired with Martin or Letang. Either combo isnt going to be a bottom pairing.


We'll most likely see

Martin - Letang
Murray - Niskanen
Eaton - Engelland
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Postby thehockeyguru on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:50 pm

tfrizz wrote:
thehockeyguru wrote:With Niskanen and Murray together, Engellend would likely be paired with Martin or Letang. Either combo isnt going to be a bottom pairing.


We'll most likely see

Martin - Letang
Murray - Niskanen
Eaton - Engelland


That would be a nightmare of a third pairing.
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Postby pcm on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:55 pm

The lines at practice were

Letang-Eaton
Murray-Niskanen
Martin-Engelland

Martin's being worked in slowly. As in the last game, Martin will probably play up with Letang some. But they've never been a been a good pairing together for some reason. Get well soon Brooks.
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Postby Dickie Dunn on Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:42 pm

pcm wrote:The lines at practice were

Letang-Eaton
Murray-Niskanen
Martin-Engelland

Martin's being worked in slowly. As in the last game, Martin will probably play up with Letang some. But they've never been a been a good pairing together for some reason. Get well soon Brooks.


Martin returned to the lineup Saturday and played over 23 minutes in a completely meaningless game. That's pretty much the opposite of being worked in slowly.
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:45 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
tfrizz wrote:
thehockeyguru wrote:With Niskanen and Murray together, Engellend would likely be paired with Martin or Letang. Either combo isnt going to be a bottom pairing.


We'll most likely see

Martin - Letang
Murray - Niskanen
Eaton - Engelland


That would be a nightmare of a third pairing.


Especially against the Islanders on their home ice. That pairing is way to slow for a speedy team like NYI.

Still, I think we're worrying a bit to much as fans.

I hope the team and the coaching staff are concentrating on this.
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Postby mikey287 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:02 pm

Godric wrote:I'd throw the Crosby line against the Tavares line.

Tavares can't do anything when he doesn't have the puck


Neither team is especially devoted to line matching really. The Penguins seem to base their lines situationally rather than to match against opponents. And the Islanders aren't too far off that line of reasoning either I don't believe. They'll probably try to get their shutdown pairing (Travis Hamonic - Andrew MacDonald) out there as much as they can against Crosby and Malkin as much as they possibly can and just hope that someone can support that. They'll probably bring center Frans Nielsen with them as much as they can as well...but if everyone's healthy, you can only do so much matching. If you really want to match, if I'm the Isles I also strive for Tavares vs. Crosby. Then Neilsen vs. Malkin.

Personally, I wouldn't go nuts with trying to play the line match game. I'd continue to do things situationally and then see if an adjustment needs to be made. I would want to get my puck possession hogs and/or punishers out there against Hamonic and AMac early in the series...make those first minutes their toughest and it will linger for the remainder of the series. Not because either of them can be intimidated, but because they're gonna need to play at least 25 minutes every night against our best...so I'd start by putting pucks in the LW corner and letting Kunitz blow one of them up (ala Timonen in, 2009 was it?). Hell, if I got an early icing, I'd even put out a Tanner Glass or Matt Cooke if he has his batteries charged and just try to get them to eat the puck for a little while if they can. Before resuming the Penguins more typical: icing = Malkin time tactic.
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Postby Shakes on Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:38 pm

Shelly Anderson ‏@pgshelly 10m
Malkin on the playoffs: "I want to show my best game because this year wasn’t great for me. I have a chance to play better." #Penguins


Awesome. The last time Malkin had something to prove (coming back from serious injury), he lit the NHL on fire for the entire season.

It's coming . . .

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Postby thehockeyguru on Wed May 01, 2013 11:00 am

Looking at the projected Lines, I have no problem at all with them. Let's drop the puck.

Kunitz - Malkin - Neal
Dupuis - Jokinen - Iginla
Morrow - Sutter - Cooke
Glass - Adams - Bennett

Martin - Engelland
Eaton - Letang
Murray - Niskanen
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Postby Fire0nice228 on Wed May 01, 2013 11:18 am

idiot on the news just said 'sweep them in five'.. sigh. his jersey was black for the record.
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Postby TheGhostofGoulet on Wed May 01, 2013 11:25 am

Fire0nice228 wrote:idiot on the news just said 'sweep them in five'.. sigh. his jersey was black for the record.

Was it Bill Phillips or any clod from WPXI?
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Postby pittsoccer33 on Wed May 01, 2013 11:31 am

are these acceptable topics for a pre-game discussion thread?

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Postby thepittman on Wed May 01, 2013 11:34 am

Fire0nice228 wrote:idiot on the news just said 'sweep them in five'.. sigh. his jersey was black for the record.

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Postby Staggy on Wed May 01, 2013 12:24 pm

I find it so amusing that other teams' fans just assume that Fleury will be replaced by Vokoun eventually, and they are terrified of that happening. I hope Fleury throws up a 1.5 GAA this series just to shut everyone up.
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Postby tfrizz on Wed May 01, 2013 12:27 pm

Staggy wrote:I find it so amusing that other teams' fans just assume that Fleury will be replaced by Vokoun eventually, and they are terrified of that happening. I hope Fleury throws up a 1.5 GAA this series just to shut everyone up.


I can't get over it, myself. Every non-Pens fan talking about the series is expecting Vokoun to replace Fleury.
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Postby IntangibleBeer on Wed May 01, 2013 12:37 pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote:Everyone needs to chill out! The media always likes to hype up the 8th unseeding the 1st and fans of the 1st seed are always terrified of losing to an 8th. Not happening this year guy, relax.


Yeah, caught some of this crap on the NHL Network last night. The three nitwits at the desk were grinning like they knew the score already. :slug: I don't think so. :twisted:

Pens in 5.
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Postby IntangibleBeer on Wed May 01, 2013 12:46 pm

tfrizz wrote:
Staggy wrote:I find it so amusing that other teams' fans just assume that Fleury will be replaced by Vokoun eventually, and they are terrified of that happening. I hope Fleury throws up a 1.5 GAA this series just to shut everyone up.


I can't get over it, myself. Every non-Pens fan talking about the series is expecting Vokoun to replace Fleury.


Why? That really makes no sense. It's not like Fleury is a rookie being carefully watched so that he doesn't crack. He's won a Stanley Cup, is well rested, has a real defense in front of him (something that hasn't been there all the time), and plenty of playoff experience. I don't get that at all.

Is it possible he will have a bad game and get pulled? Heck yeah. And HCDB might spell him once or twice. But replaced? I don't think so. Can someone explain that thinking?
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Postby pcm on Wed May 01, 2013 12:48 pm

Looks like Bennett's in. Ca ching.

From morning skate:

Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Sutter-Cooke
Dupuis-Jokinen-Iginla
Glass-Adams-Bennett
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Postby Staggy on Wed May 01, 2013 12:50 pm

People just love to scream how overrated Fleury is. They talk about how overrated he is to the point where he becomes severely underrated. They think he sucked in the playoffs last year (and they'd be wrong since he was worse than just normal suckitude) but so did the rest of the team. They refuse to acknowledge his regular season excellence and post season success in the past. Basically it's just people that hate the Pens and need something to complain about.
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Postby mnpensfan on Wed May 01, 2013 12:52 pm

Really need Geno and Neal to keep their emotions in check in this series. They both can easily get goaded into retaliatory penalties and I want nothing to do with Tavares on the PP......
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Postby Admin on Wed May 01, 2013 12:59 pm

Pens are 0-1 at home when Tyler Kennedy is a healthy scratch. :pop:
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