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Bylsma Hockey

Postby Scott on Wed May 08, 2013 4:13 am

On paper the Pens are ten times better. Right? Whatever. Tired of hearing that garbage. They don't play these games on paper.

The point..

I love Bylsma hockey. Who doesn't. It is exciting. It is in your face. It is non stop no matter how big a lead. Lets get more. Exciting indeed. No excuses here. We are gonna come at you with all we got all the time. More times than not we will get ya.

Ok now the bad. Bylsma hockey is exciting but it is the most physically demanding system. He wants to go 100 mph all the time. They play the same way all the time. I don't know if he is too arrogant to implement a trap after getting a nice lead or what but check this out...
the players can't score on every shot and they get exhausted from this go go go system. If the other team has hung around and kept the game within reach, often times they come back and win.

Speaking of Stanley Cup...how have the Pens fared in the playoffs since the Cup? Post Cup...2nd rd exit year one. 1st rd exit year 2. 1st rd exit year 3. See a continuing theme here. Why is this you might wonder. Since this is a professional sports league teams love to copy cat. The Cup year Bylsma gets a team about 8 weeks before the playoffs start in the tenth standing. The players respond to his fun system. He is a likable coach. They are bounding with energy. The big key though is the league hasn't seen an attack like this in many many years. They aren't really prepared to play against such an up tempo for 60 mins because they don't ever see that. So he has success and wins the Cup. Fantastic. Since then his playoff runs have been short.
I know there have been injuries but we are in the fourth playoff run post Cup and things are not looking so good. Or they are looking more of the same old ugly situation. Paper paper paper we should blow them out. Right? Sounds familiar too.

Bylsma makes adjustments at a zero level. The pens live and die by the 100 mph hockey. Never do they change things up. You know regardless of the score and the opponent how the Pens are going to play. Well if we know, you bet your ass the opposition knows too.

This matchup could not be any worse for the pens. It is square peg in a round hole. The Isle love Bylsma hockey. They love it because they will play Bylsma hockey and guess what...they are faster at it than the Pens are. Bylsma hockey is about speed. You can't play his system if you are slow. Well as you all have seen the Isle are the fastest team in the NHL.

If they can get out of this round there could be big things for this team because I don't see another team that could give them problems to this magnitude like the Isle are because of that speed meshing with Bylsma hockey.

He does need to check his pride at the door though and adjust his system from time to time. This is the only way I see the Pens surviving this series. if they keep going as is I have zero confidence in them winning this series.

These next two-three games IMO will also decide the future for Bylsma coaching the Penguins. Shero/Lemieux did not go all in this year to be bounced in the first round...AGAIN! :thumbdown:
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby chad2ss on Wed May 08, 2013 5:32 am

This was perfectly said, and I could not agree more... OTHER than, I do believe the Isles are one of a handful of teams who recognize his arrogance to the system, and could alter their game to combat it. Well done.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby jmh470 on Wed May 08, 2013 5:56 am

I continue to find it astonishing that people blame only Bylsma when his players cannot make simple, beer league-level plays like clearing the zone or not taking soul-sucking penalties.

This is not to exonerate Dan. As coach, much of player performance is on him.

It is easy to blame one person. It is much more difficult to divine why so many excellent players suddenly play like **** when the calendar turns.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Gaucho on Wed May 08, 2013 6:56 am

I'm fed up with everyone and everything, so I'm going to blame everyone and everything.

There is no excuse for this group for being dominated by any team in three straight games. None.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby The Current One on Wed May 08, 2013 7:06 am

It's not Bylsma's fault that the players fail to execute. However, it does show that he does not have control, and that the players have either tuned him out, or they don't respect him. Therrien was tuned out by the end, but there's no question that they respected him. The country club is back in service!
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby bh on Wed May 08, 2013 7:07 am

Yeah, DB needs this series or he's gone. No excuse here. I understand the Fleury hate now. I'm pissed he's giving up these aweful goals as well, but even a goaltender change doesn't solve the dominating zone time by the Isles, the seemingly overwhelming speed, the high quality scoring oppotunities, or the dumb penalties, the dumb turnovers, and the terrible breakout.

We have so many issues right now, it's almost inconcievable that this is the same team that we saw playing a few weeks ago.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Beveridge on Wed May 08, 2013 7:27 am

You win as a team and lose as a team, coaches included. You can't fire the whole team though. I've said it a couple times this year: If Pens don't make the ECF, I've got no issue with going in a new coaching direction.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby RxBandit66 on Wed May 08, 2013 7:41 am

The true meaning by "get to our game" is basically this:

"We're going to impose our will on our opponent and force them to play our style regardless of the situation, the score, or who is on the ice."

Winning a championship, as the great Mike Lange has often said, is about being able to adjust to any team's style and beat them at their game. Bylsma's "get to our game" approach is arrogant, short-sighted, not practical, and in many people's opinions had run its course last spring. And yet, here the Pens are again, zero adjustments later, with a roster full of all stars and potential hall of famers, getting keelhauled by a bunch of jobbers with zero playoff experience.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby farnham16 on Wed May 08, 2013 7:43 am

Bylsma has made some adjustments this series, just none big enough to have any impact. The man is just too much of a player friendly coach. And we are now seeing the drawbacks of having a coach like this. He's not the only one to blame here, but there is no way anyone can justly defend this guy right now.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby DelPen on Wed May 08, 2013 8:00 am

I don't think arrogance is the right word here. Ignorance in thinking that his way is the only winning way and not understanding that he can make changes is more like it.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby PghSkins on Wed May 08, 2013 8:06 am

Practice is optional again today. God knows this team doesn't need practice before 3 games in 4 days that will decide their playoff future.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Idoit40fans on Wed May 08, 2013 8:08 am

I don't care what the system is in the playoffs or the regular season. This team continues to fall apart when the first round of the playoffs rolls around. Bylsma should be losing his job regardless of what happens the rest of the way. This team is lucky not to be down 1-3 right now. Very lucky.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Eismann on Wed May 08, 2013 8:10 am

The post-Cup swoon has happened to 99.99% of winners and runners-up for quite a while now. We hoped that it would be different for the Pens.

Guess it's not.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Malkamaniac on Wed May 08, 2013 8:13 am

IF they lose the series, only Crosby and Shero should be safe.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby columbia on Wed May 08, 2013 8:16 am

Malkamaniac wrote:IF they lose the series, only Crosby and Shero should be safe.


I hope this isn't hyperbole, but sending one of the other "big four" packing might be needed to send a message to this organization.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Gaucho on Wed May 08, 2013 8:18 am

Does winning the series even matter at this point? Are we going to magically regain our composure, confidence and dominance once we've beaten the mighty Islanders? How can a team with so much leadership look so utterly lost?
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Gaucho on Wed May 08, 2013 8:20 am

Oh, to be able to read Shero's thoughts now...
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby DelPen on Wed May 08, 2013 8:21 am

Gaucho wrote:Does winning the series even matter at this point? Are we going to magically regain our composure, confidence and dominance once we've beaten the mighty Islanders? How can a team with so much leadership look so utterly lost?


Great question. I'd go as far to say of we get blown out in game 5 Bylsma should be fired at that point and see if Granato can dig us out in 6 and 7.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby eddysnake on Wed May 08, 2013 8:23 am

Gaucho wrote:Does winning the series even matter at this point? Are we going to magically regain our composure, confidence and dominance once we've beaten the mighty Islanders? How can a team with so much leadership look so utterly lost?


thats a great point. Everyone says, we get past them we go far. What in the last 3 games have they shown us leads to them going far? It's utterly mind boggling that this team can play like that for 3 games and after each game say the same thing. Sure the series is tied 2-2 and theres a lot of hockey to be played, but nobody can say they feel confident that the pens take this. Paper, ranks, stats... doesn't matter. The Islanders are the better team right now and have been for the last 3 games and that's very concerning to me.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby no name on Wed May 08, 2013 8:25 am

After 3 years of playoff disapointment what else is there to blame but "Bylsma Hockey" We win games in the regular season but come playoffs we get out played. The regular season you really can't prepare for all your oppeents you just play your style, in the playoffs a 7 game series you can prepare find weaknesses and adjust to their style. Failure to adjust... Yeah all these coaches put together game plans to stop "Bylsma Hockey" but we continue to put play the same way. Playing into the hands of our oppenents.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Malkamaniac on Wed May 08, 2013 8:26 am

columbia wrote:
Malkamaniac wrote:IF they lose the series, only Crosby and Shero should be safe.


I hope this isn't hyperbole, but sending one of the other "big four" packing might be needed to send a message to this organization.


None, strongly believe that a major move to shake up the core is needed. Whether it's MAF, Malkin, Letang. Don't care.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby DelPen on Wed May 08, 2013 8:27 am

Reminds me of the Sens series we barely won in 2010 where the defensive lapses were there and then finally fully exposed by the Habs. I still don't understand how a team that rattles off no losses in an entire month while playing the best defensive hockey I have ever seen give up 14 goals in 3 games to ANYONE.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed May 08, 2013 8:27 am

^^^I completely agree. Resigning Malkin should NOT be a sure thing at this point. Especially so for Letang, MAF, etc.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm not paying $10 million/year long-term for someone as enigmatic as Malkin. He's a great player when he's on, but my God is he absolutely terrible when he isn't.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby Gaucho on Wed May 08, 2013 8:28 am

So sad. Shero pulled all these rabbits out of his hat and then they poop on the carpet and make a big mess.
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Re: Bylsma Hockey

Postby DelPen on Wed May 08, 2013 8:32 am

Gaucho wrote:So sad. Shero pulled all these rabbits out of his hat and then they poop on the carpet and make a big mess.


Actually, I kind of liked the team that was playing after the deadline until Malkin, Letang and Neal came back.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Morrow-Jokinen-Iginla
Cooke-Sutter-Bennett
Glass-Adams-Kennedy

Martin-Orpik
Despres-Niskanen
Murray-Eaton

Still a very strong lineup.
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