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MarioLives wrote:So just out of curiosity, what happens if this team plays better in front of Vokoun and they dominate? What does that say about the team? Why can't they do that when MAF is in there? It may be a moot point, we will see.
Rocco wrote:MarioLives wrote:So just out of curiosity, what happens if this team plays better in front of Vokoun and they dominate? What does that say about the team? Why can't they do that when MAF is in there? It may be a moot point, we will see.
It says they weren't taking things seriously, which is a pretty damning indictment.
tfrizz wrote:murphydump55 wrote:It's been said before:
It's not about the saves you make, but the saves you don't make.
Fleury saps any momentum out of this team with his softies that he routinely allows game after game. TV has to start and as I predicted in another thread, we will win the next two games because of this.
And if Vokoun doesn't win the next two games? So many people assume that going from Fleury to Vokoun is going to magically turn to wins, but it's still entire possible that the team continues to play like garbage and/or Vokoun also plays poorly.
Kraftster wrote:I think I probably go back to MAF in Game 6 in about 8/10 scenarios. MAF has a history of responding very well to being pulled, so I would think a benching would essentially trigger the same response from him. I'd go back to Vokoun if (1) he absolutely stands on his head or (2) the team plays an extremely tight game in front of him (regardless of outcome in both scenarios). Anything short of those two things, and I'd probably go back to Fleury. Fleury is capable of playing at a significantly higher level than Vokoun at this stage in Vokoun's career, I think.
RxBandit66 wrote:Kraftster wrote:I think I probably go back to MAF in Game 6 in about 8/10 scenarios. MAF has a history of responding very well to being pulled, so I would think a benching would essentially trigger the same response from him. I'd go back to Vokoun if (1) he absolutely stands on his head or (2) the team plays an extremely tight game in front of him (regardless of outcome in both scenarios). Anything short of those two things, and I'd probably go back to Fleury. Fleury is capable of playing at a significantly higher level than Vokoun at this stage in Vokoun's career, I think.
I seem to remember Fleury coming back after the Pens beat the Flyers 10-3 and just completely stealing game 5 from them last year. Of course, the Flyers went on to win game 6.
But Vokoun has tortured the Islanders in his career, and this past season is 3-0 with a 0.90 GAA. I think if he plays well you stick with him for game 6, and if the Pens win that game then maybe go back to Flower to start the next series. I agree that Fleury is capable of playing at a higher level at this point in his career. But Vokoun is less likely to completely melt down. He's won a ton of games on totally crap teams, and it seems like the more shots he faces the better he plays. Since that's the Islanders' game plan, just shoot from everywhere, Vokoun will be up to that task. He's marginally better at handling the puck, too.
columbia wrote:What kills me about MAF's meltdown was that him being overworked was the excuse in the past.
Condensed schedule or not, he only had to play 33 freakin' games this year.
dogwithshftyeyes wrote:dont forget: Vokoun wears his glove on his right hand
offsides wrote:This will either be the move that is hailed as the turning point in the series or just another futile effort to stop the Pens same old playoff failure.
Hawkeynut wrote:I really hope we look back on this move and say "Wow, that was the turning point."
One has to believe the team will collectively dig their head out of their collective posteriors and play strong.
pcm wrote:offsides wrote:This will either be the move that is hailed as the turning point in the series or just another futile effort to stop the Pens same old playoff failure.
Or Vokoun could crap the bed in game 5. Fleury goes in, wins game game 6, and then the team finally wins a game 7 at home...
But that would be way too nerve-wracking.
columbia wrote:What kills me about MAF's meltdown was that him being overworked was the excuse in the past.
Condensed schedule or not, he only had to play 33 freakin' games this year.
Rocco wrote:thepittman wrote:Puck Drama wrote:jimjom wrote:I endorse the decision, but this is something that could go very well or backfire horribly. If it goes well, ride TV until the wheels fall off and put MAF back in. If it goes wrong, TV lays an egg, MAF starts in an elimination game on the road with shaky confidence and self esteem, and it's Isles in 6.
I think the fatherhood issue has some bearing on his play. I also believe that the fans are in his head. I think the tendency to do poorly in big games is the main issue and I am not sure how that gets fixed no matter the outcome of this series.
So Fleury is a mental case. Maybe he should take up a new profession. I can't imagine Bylsma having to walk on eggs in order to not crush MAF's fragile ego.
Is that you Rocco?
I'm offended.
PhantomJB93 wrote:This team might win this series with Vokoun but unless everyone in front of him tightens things up they still won't go much farther. Then again, the best stretch of "playoff" style hockey we played all season was when Fleury went down and Vokoun took over, so maybe they actually will come out and play the way we expected them to.
I still only give us a 30% chance or less of winning this series. We've given them hope, belief and momentum, which will take any team farther than skill alone.
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