Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby Pens4Life on Sat May 11, 2013 4:02 am

I would like to see 4th line :

Vitale - Jokinen - TK
for now.. but that wont happen,because Bylsma wont scratch both Adams and Glass,because of PK
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby smoothmoneyb on Sat May 11, 2013 4:08 am

The more I think about it, the more a 4th line of Vitale, Morrow and Jokinen just sounds AMAZING! And you still get to keep your 3rd line of Cooke, Sutter and Kennedy that's been pretty solid all year. We know it will never happen because Adams is almost untouchable but WOW! It sure is fun to think about. You basically have two different 3rd lines there, 3a and 3b with slightly different styles. You've got speed on both lines, you've got energy guys, toughness, agitators, ability to cycle and a seriously legitimate threat to score from both of those lines. Man, I want for this to happen so badly.

I'm not quite too sure about Jokinens speed, though. Just haven't really watched him play enough. I mean I know he's not Murray slow, or even Sutter slow, but I'm fairly certain he's not Dupuis fast either. Anyone else want to weigh in on that?
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby smoothmoneyb on Sat May 11, 2013 4:12 am

Pens4Life wrote:I would like to see 4th line :

Vitale - Jokinen - TK
for now.. but that wont happen,because Bylsma wont scratch both Adams and Glass,because of PK


didn't see this until after i posted. yeah, i think that would work too, and would be my 2nd choice for lines 3 and 4. but morrow looked good on the fourth line with vitale last night, and TK, by now is used to playing with cooke and sutter. plus TK and vitale are the fastest of all those guys, and i think the best situation would be to try and spread the speed out a little bit..
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby PenguinSteve-o on Sat May 11, 2013 7:45 am

We have a better chance to go deep in playoffs and win a cup with Adams playing than BB. IMO.
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby Pavel Bure on Sat May 11, 2013 8:44 am

The first 2 pages of this are gold
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby shmenguin on Sat May 11, 2013 8:45 am

Depends on who we're playing. Dupuis was scratched for sykora in 09 when the wings were able to neutralize our stars. The same thing could happen again with Adams/Bennett.

In theory anyways.
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby Pitt87 on Sat May 11, 2013 11:19 am

smoothmoneyb wrote:I think more than anything, the biggest reason for playing Adams over BB is that Adams is far less likely to cost us by making a rookie type of mistake. Adams doesn't add a whole lot but he is reliable, which is something Bylsma values, as he should. Basically he brings stability, gets significant minutes on the PK and more than anything else, HCDB trusts him. I think there's a good chance we see BB again if we advance against the islanders. I think he's got a heck of a future, but as others have said, he just doesn't bring enough of anything extra that we don't already have out there currently, and thereby justify the risk of replacing a proven vet with a rookie. Honestly I can't even begin to imagine a situation where HCDB scratches Adams. I think Adams would have to screw up royally, and probably in multiple games for that to happen. With that said, I'd have no problem replacing Adams in the lineup, although I just don't see it happening. It is kind of funny that you mention replacing Adams with BB as opposed to Jokinen, though. I mean, I honestly wouldn't mind replacing Adams, but if it was a choice of replacing him with Jokinen or BB, I'm taking Jokinen 7 days a week and twice on sunday. Not even close


You just described a 6th or 7th defender, not a forward. A forward making a mistake rarely ends up in your net, and if it does its a really big mistake. I'd argue that, in today's NHL, the best thing a forward can do on the 4th line is work in their own zone to deliver the puck from danger, gain the red line and get the puck behind defenders and occasionally get the puck to the net for an offensive zone faceoff. 27 is terrible at all of these.
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby ScottishPenguin on Sat May 11, 2013 12:54 pm

We're all a little attached to Bennett because he's basically our only forward prospect. He was extremely useful back in February/March when our top 6 had a hole in it. Then we got Iginla, and to a lesser extent Morrow and Jokinen, and now there isn't really space for him. It's as simple as that.
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby pugilist13 on Sat May 11, 2013 12:59 pm

You go with the lineup that won game 5. That is all.
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby Godric on Sat May 11, 2013 4:56 pm

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KYLE PALMIERI

WEIGHT: 197
SHOOTS: RIGHT
BORN: FEB 1, 1991  (AGE 22)

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BEAU BENNETT

HEIGHT:    6' 2"
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby Godric on Sat May 11, 2013 4:59 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/
The fourth line for the Ducks has been among their best, as Palmieri, Emerson Etem and David Steckel have made the most of their minutes. Said Coach Bruce Boudreau to the Detroit News:
"I think that's been a strength all year," Anaheim coach Bruce Boudreau said after his team's morning skate. "If you look at the teams, we were in the top 10 in scoring and nobody with more than 15 goals. I think it's a good thing that if one line is not going at any point in a game or for a couple games, we've got other lines to pick up the slack.”


Kyle Palmieri is certainly better at hockey than Craig Adams. I'd argue that Beau Bennett is better than Kyle Palmieri. I get to see plenty of both down here in Socal.
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby MRandall25 on Sat May 11, 2013 5:01 pm

Beau Bennett doesn't fit into this lineup when everyone is healthy.

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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby Stick_Flex on Sat May 11, 2013 5:13 pm

Godric wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/
The fourth line for the Ducks has been among their best, as Palmieri, Emerson Etem and David Steckel have made the most of their minutes. Said Coach Bruce Boudreau to the Detroit News:
"I think that's been a strength all year," Anaheim coach Bruce Boudreau said after his team's morning skate. "If you look at the teams, we were in the top 10 in scoring and nobody with more than 15 goals. I think it's a good thing that if one line is not going at any point in a game or for a couple games, we've got other lines to pick up the slack.”


Kyle Palmieri is certainly better at hockey than Craig Adams. I'd argue that Beau Bennett is better than Kyle Palmieri. I get to see plenty of both down here in Socal.


Your right Bennett is better then Palmieri. The real rookie you should be looking at from the ducks is Etem. Etem is going to be a great player.
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Re: Why not Bennett in over Glass/Adams/Jokinen?

Postby Godric on Sat May 11, 2013 5:20 pm

Etem and Palmieri are both legit.
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