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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby shmenguin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:31 pm

PAPLine wrote:
SolidSnake wrote:Savard savard savard savard!!!!!

As I recall, the Savard hit was a clean hit even by today's rules. It was a solid shoulder to shoulder hit.


Nope.

Nope nope nope
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:33 pm

The Savard hit was pretty much the sole reason Rule 48 was put into place.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby relantel on Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:34 pm

Savard hit legal then, not now.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby pugilist13 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:17 pm

As unfortunate as it may be, the Pens need to cut ties with Cooke at seasons end. When a guy is continually the target of officials it becomes near comical. He will never shake the reputation and that becomes a huge distraction.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby She'sTheFastest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:38 pm

shmenguin wrote:
PAPLine wrote:
SolidSnake wrote:Savard savard savard savard!!!!!

As I recall, the Savard hit was a clean hit even by today's rules. It was a solid shoulder to shoulder hit.


Nope.

Nope nope nope


You'r response is the most insightful thing I have ever read and that includes "neckmeat." :pop:
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby Sarcastic on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:50 pm

pugilist13 wrote:As unfortunate as it may be, the Pens need to cut ties with Cooke at seasons end. When a guy is continually the target of officials it becomes near comical. He will never shake the reputation and that becomes a huge distraction.


I disagree. He's an important player. One controversial hit all year that I can remember and it shouldn't even be treated as that but it was because that Boston a-hole decided to pretend to be hurt. This should be a non-story. If Shanahan isn't doing anything, and rather publically praises Cooke instead, that's all I need to know.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby canaan on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:52 pm

Matt Cooke for president of the world. I'm sick of defending penguins players. I'm gonna start reveling in other teams views of the penguins as villains. Huzzah.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby pugilist13 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:57 pm

Sarcastic wrote:
pugilist13 wrote:As unfortunate as it may be, the Pens need to cut ties with Cooke at seasons end. When a guy is continually the target of officials it becomes near comical. He will never shake the reputation and that becomes a huge distraction.


I disagree. He's an important player. One controversial hit all year that I can remember and it shouldn't even be treated as that but it was because that Boston a-hole decided to pretend to be hurt. This should be a non-story. If Shanahan isn't doing anything, and rather publically praises Cooke instead, that's all I need to know.

I certainly see your point, but when 24 hits the ice he has four eyes in stripes glued to him. Look no further than the phantom slash on Karlsson in the Sens series.Now the McQuaid thing...Thats a boarding minor if your name isn't Matt Cooke.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby Sarcastic on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:04 pm

pugilist13 wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:
pugilist13 wrote:As unfortunate as it may be, the Pens need to cut ties with Cooke at seasons end. When a guy is continually the target of officials it becomes near comical. He will never shake the reputation and that becomes a huge distraction.


I disagree. He's an important player. One controversial hit all year that I can remember and it shouldn't even be treated as that but it was because that Boston a-hole decided to pretend to be hurt. This should be a non-story. If Shanahan isn't doing anything, and rather publically praises Cooke instead, that's all I need to know.

I certainly see your point, but when 24 hits the ice he has four eyes in stripes glued to him. Look no further than the phantom slash on Karlsson in the Sens series.Now the McQuaid thing...Thats a boarding minor if your name isn't Matt Cooke.


I understand what you're trying to say. And it's valid. I just think we should fight through it.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby Getting To My Game on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:05 pm

I really, really hate Boston. I wish I could articulate my hatred in more verbose terms, but I'm not eloquent enough. The entire sports culture and fandom there is just vomit inducing.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby pens9192 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:11 pm

I guess Krug is the new "Next Best Player in the World". Step aside, Giroux!
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby She'sTheFastest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:12 pm

Getting To My Game wrote:I really, really hate Boston. I wish I could articulate my hatred in more verbose terms, but I'm not eloquent enough. The entire sports culture and fandom there is just vomit inducing.


This is why I no longer dislike the Manning brothers, especially Eli.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby Getting To My Game on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:15 pm

She'sTheFastest wrote:
Getting To My Game wrote:I really, really hate Boston. I wish I could articulate my hatred in more verbose terms, but I'm not eloquent enough. The entire sports culture and fandom there is just vomit inducing.


This is why I no longer dislike the Manning brothers, especially Eli.


I root against anything Boston related. Even the Red Sox and Celtics, participants in two sports I really don't care for, I still make time to root against them. I've never heard of one person who talks about what a great experience they had with a Boston sports fan, they can all jump in an acid pit for all I care.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby Chefpatrick871 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:16 pm

Can we get a revival of the "Things Matt Cooke has done" thread? That was fun.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby pugilist13 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:16 pm

Getting To My Game wrote:I really, really hate Boston. I wish I could articulate my hatred in more verbose terms, but I'm not eloquent enough. The entire sports culture and fandom there is just vomit inducing.

I still hate Philthy more, however I would give a couple hundred bucks to punch Marchand in the face. #Punchablefaces
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby Lt. Dish on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:18 pm

canaan wrote:Matt Cooke for president of the world. I'm sick of defending penguins players. I'm gonna start reveling in other teams views of the penguins as villains. Huzzah.


Quite right, huzzah! I'm tired of people asking me, "So, what do you think about [insert controversial Pens player or situation here]?" Like they really care and aren't looking for a chance to pounce with their largely myth-based BS.

Take the phans (please!): That two-hander that broke Kharlamov's ankle was a slash for freedom, I suppose.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby brwi on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:18 pm

Sarcastic wrote:
pugilist13 wrote:As unfortunate as it may be, the Pens need to cut ties with Cooke at seasons end. When a guy is continually the target of officials it becomes near comical. He will never shake the reputation and that becomes a huge distraction.


I disagree. He's an important player. One controversial hit all year that I can remember and it shouldn't even be treated as that but it was because that Boston a-hole decided to pretend to be hurt. This should be a non-story. If Shanahan isn't doing anything, and rather publically praises Cooke instead, that's all I need to know.


I also still think Cooke is more of an asset than a liability right now. Yeah, the boarding penalty was Cooke being over-zealous and most other players only get a 2min minor while a guy with his rep gets a major, but he's played his butt off in the post-season and been a force out there without getting all the "Matt Cooke calls" before last game.

Cooke is a good 3rd liner and a fixture on the PK. He's also not expensive contract-wise and has done about everything possible to clean his game up and now is bringing the physicality in usually better fashion than before without being so passive as he was last year.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby ScottishPenguin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:20 pm

pugilist13 wrote:As unfortunate as it may be, the Pens need to cut ties with Cooke at seasons end. When a guy is continually the target of officials it becomes near comical. He will never shake the reputation and that becomes a huge distraction.


I don't think he's quite so badly victimised as people think. It's as easy for us to sit back and give it the "2 minutes for being Matt Cooke lol" on a borderline call that goes against us as it is for other fans to jump out of their chairs with the instant lynch mob when he's involved in a borderline call that goes against them.

He is going to take penalties from time to time because of the hard, gritty game he's playing, but if you compare him to other guys on our team who are being asked to fill similar roles, his PIM stat looks pretty standard. For what he's bringing to the table, I'd like to see him back next year.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby Getting To My Game on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:22 pm

pugilist13 wrote:
Getting To My Game wrote:I really, really hate Boston. I wish I could articulate my hatred in more verbose terms, but I'm not eloquent enough. The entire sports culture and fandom there is just vomit inducing.

I still hate Philthy more, however I would give a couple hundred bucks to punch Marchand in the face. #Punchablefaces


Philly fans are just boneheaded dopes. Boston fans have a sense of arrogance and superiority that makes you lose faith in all that's good with humanity.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby brwi on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:29 pm

ScottishPenguin wrote:He is going to take penalties from time to time because of the hard, gritty game he's playing, but if you compare him to other guys on our team who are being asked to fill similar roles, his PIM stat looks pretty standard. For what he's bringing to the table, I'd like to see him back next year.


:thumb:
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby pressure=9Pa on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:39 pm

Sarcastic wrote:... It's the Boston fanbase trying to turn Pens into Satan and I'm going to ignore it from now.


The Pens re-acquired Miro Satan?
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby PghSkins on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:05 pm

pressure=9Pa wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:... It's the Boston fanbase trying to turn Pens into Satan and I'm going to ignore it from now.


The Pens re-acquired Miro Satan?


No titles since he's been gone.....
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby Desiato on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:09 pm

PghSkins wrote:
pressure=9Pa wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:... It's the Boston fanbase trying to turn Pens into Satan and I'm going to ignore it from now.


The Pens re-acquired Miro Satan?


No titles since he's been gone.....


He's a guy who knew the right time to fight to change momentum.
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Re: Matt Cooke should be kicked out of the NHL

Postby ivand87 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:54 am

Losing to these Boston morons who really don't know anything about hockey is really annoying... Let's take back this series goddamnit
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