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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby ScottishPenguin on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:52 pm

eddiefromirwin wrote:I would have hoped that Shero and HCDB would have had a plan for Iginla before acquiring him.


Pretty sure that plan was get some weed and spend the next day reading Bruins forums.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby Lt. Dish on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:55 pm

bh wrote:HCDB could win with this roster. He needs to prove that he can come up with a solution to the Bruins trap. We NEED to score the first goal and if we don't, we need to be patient. We got decimated after Boston got up on us becuase they just waited until they had a good chance the other way and capitalized. We can't give those types of chances. We'll need to muck it up and get a dirty goal if we get behind. High flying Penguins hockey will not work against this system.


Believe it or not, the winning streak, despite occurring during the regular season, gives me hope that they can jump off the fire wagon and get to work.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby MRandall25 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:55 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
bh wrote:Iginla is not why we are losing in such bad fasion.


Its not Iginla, its Bylsma's use of Iginla!


Bylsma's use of Iginla is causing Kris Letang to pass it to the Bruins in our zone?!?
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby Idoit40fans on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:57 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:
bh wrote:Iginla is not why we are losing in such bad fasion.


Its not Iginla, its Bylsma's use of Iginla!


Bylsma's use of Iginla is causing Kris Letang to pass it to the Bruins in our zone?!?


Its also causing Fleury to give up backbreaking goals, Crosby to produce 0 and turn the puck over repeatedly, and Matt Cooke.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby bh on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:10 pm

Lt. Dish wrote:
bh wrote:HCDB could win with this roster. He needs to prove that he can come up with a solution to the Bruins trap. We NEED to score the first goal and if we don't, we need to be patient. We got decimated after Boston got up on us becuase they just waited until they had a good chance the other way and capitalized. We can't give those types of chances. We'll need to muck it up and get a dirty goal if we get behind. High flying Penguins hockey will not work against this system.


Believe it or not, the winning streak, despite occurring during the regular season, gives me hope that they can jump off the fire wagon and get to work.

Me too! Gotta think positive. These are professionals. They have to be able to see what went wrong and they are good players. I have to believe that they can do this!
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby bh on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:10 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:
bh wrote:Iginla is not why we are losing in such bad fasion.


Its not Iginla, its Bylsma's use of Iginla!


Bylsma's use of Iginla is causing Kris Letang to pass it to the Bruins in our zone?!?


Its also causing Fleury to give up backbreaking goals, Crosby to produce 0 and turn the puck over repeatedly, and Matt Cooke.

I wish we never got Iginla then.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby nhl94 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:11 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:
bh wrote:Iginla is not why we are losing in such bad fasion.


Its not Iginla, its Bylsma's use of Iginla!


Bylsma's use of Iginla is causing Kris Letang to pass it to the Bruins in our zone?!?


Its also causing Fleury to give up backbreaking goals, Crosby to produce 0 and turn the puck over repeatedly, and Matt Cooke.


Yeap, no one is really doing their part. I'm not sure if the team was over-confident or just so nervous of the high expectations of them...
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby eddiefromirwin on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:14 pm

Actually, the Letang issues and the Fleury issues have nothing to do with one goal in two games. The misuse of Iginla might.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby bh on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:15 pm

They played well enough to win game 1. Didn't score on multiple good chances and then got discouraged.
Game 2 they got behind early due to a bone headed mistake, and then continued to make bone headed mistakes and got really really discouraged.

Cut out the mistakes, score the first goal, and the games will go a lot different.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby slipshod on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:21 pm

bh wrote:They played well enough to win game 1. Didn't score on multiple good chances and then got discouraged.
Game 2 they got behind early due to a bone headed mistake, and then continued to make bone headed mistakes and got really really discouraged.

Cut out the mistakes, score the first goal, and the games will go a lot different.


Ultimately this is the truth but to play with patience if you don't get that first goal is something a coach should demand and have programmed in.

If Disco really wants to get some attention from the team he scratches Letang and plays Despres.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby Defence21 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:46 pm

eddiefromirwin wrote:Actually, the Letang issues and the Fleury issues have nothing to do with one goal in two games. The misuse of Iginla might.

I disagree. Letang (like many other players, Crosby and Malkin included) is trying too hard to do too much to create offense. When you press, when you grip your stick tighter, when you overthink the game, you don't score as easily. It sounds cliche, but any player or former player will tell you the exact same thing. Second, when Fleury (or Vokoun) gives up a goal or multiple goals early (or at any point, really) to give the Bruins the lead, it gives the Bruins more of an opportunity to play their defensive brand, thus making it more difficult to score.

So, when you're gripping your sticks and overthinking the game while the opponent is in a full defensive shell, it becomes a hot mess. Everything that happens on the ice intertwines. Let's hope the Penguins are as loose as they're saying heading into tonight's game, because an early lead will force the Bruins to play a game they don't want to play: catch up.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby MRandall25 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:50 pm

eddiefromirwin wrote:Actually, the Letang issues and the Fleury issues have nothing to do with one goal in two games. The misuse of Iginla might.


Iginla had 12 points in 13 games playing on the "wrong" side.

It's not as big a deal as people are making of it, considering the fact pointed out earlier that hockey is very fluid position-wise and players end up on the opposite wing/"wrong" side all the time during the normal flow of play.
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Re: Bylsma can't win with this roster?

Postby Lt. Dish on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:52 pm

bh wrote:They played well enough to win game 1. Didn't score on multiple good chances and then got discouraged.
Game 2 they got behind early due to a bone headed mistake, and then continued to make bone headed mistakes and got really really discouraged.

Cut out the mistakes, score the first goal, and the games will go a lot different.


Yes, sounds simple, because they need to simplify!

Even if the Pens give up the first goal again: I know OTT is a totally different team, but the Pens didn't go nuts when OTT scored first. They kept it relatively simple and stuck with the plan, broke Anderson, and the rest is history.
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